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    It's that time again...

    I've just gone through and reviewed the Suggestions forum for things users have been asking us to consider for the next version of ArtRage.

    There are 147 new feature suggestions since the last time we reviewed the forum and discussed the feature requests.

    Over the next couple of weeks we'll review the list we've made, and make the decisions about which features will fit into the next ArtRage. Much coffee will be consumed.
    AndyRage's mantra for graphics engine code:
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    For your interest, here is the list of suggested features for ArtRage from the forum. We'll discuss them all.


    Suggestions, in no particular order - just as I stumbled over them in the forum:

    Vector drawing
    Customizable interface
    Customizable shortcuts
    Brush definitions like Photoshop
    Watercolour. Very wet! Salt! Water-drops!
    Better blending tools
    Natural colour mixing
    Ink Pen. (China ink, very expressive). Definable stroke-path smoothing.
    Compass frisket (angles, circles, ellipses)
    Auto save - setable time delay. Silent, or ask. Increment sequence so can revert to earlier version.
    Ink Brush. (like ink pen)
    Brush presets - saved brushes. Option to save with colour on head.
    Splatter brush - dribbled, flicked on tight direction changes. Drip, drip, splash!
    Ink washes
    Lua plugin support: See examples of DogLua at www.thebest3d.com/dogwaffle/lua
    Dogwaffle's PD Particles, like seen in ArtWeaver
    Selection tool for cut/paste
    Collaborative painting (ala Open Canvas)
    Paint bucket - Fill tool
    Twain Acquire - still-image from other sources. For trace, layer, and ref image
    Tooltips
    Real-world colour mixing
    Drag-drop import
    Bigger brushes
    Paint with solvent (and dripping onto canvas (blur))
    Gravity effects - paint running
    Better dry-brushing.
    Crop tool
    Floating colourpicker, and other palettes. Remembers location between sessions. Move to 2nd display
    Masking tape - rippable, and bleed beneath.
    Customizable tool picker - in case we get too many tools
    Bigger brushes
    Dodge/burn brush
    Constrain stroke direction with Shift. Point-to-point strokes
    Mixing-palette
    Flip/rotate/mirror tracing image.
    Export options - resize on export, change compression
    Snappable grids and guides
    Loadable palette knife. Also palette knife can scrape paint off canvas (interact more with canvas texture).
    Layers arrayed as grid of thumbnails (optional!)
    Saveable colour mixing palette.
    Multiple canvases open at once.
    Coffee-grounds, sand, string, wire, torn paper, etc. (Is there a way to make it user-definable?)
    Zoom centre should be cursor, not centre of screen.
    Brush-sizing at location of cursor - hot-key?
    Precise pencil more expressive (size adjust on pressure)
    Display angle of stencil on stencil itself (near pin?)
    Better scale/rotate/move paradigm. Handles?
    Brightness/contrast controls.
    Torn edges when cut/pasting
    Support for the SpaceNavigator PE from 3DCONNEXOIN (http://www.3dconnexion.com/) - other input devices? (User configurable?) (Wacom 6D pen)
    Dont edit hidden layers!
    ArtRage animator
    'H' and 'V' keys permanent - can paint while like that
    Spatter on airbrush. And/or entirely flat glitter
    Stencil opacity, grouping, stamping stencil
    Restrict painting to inside bounding area of stencils - useful for large tools
    Lighting controls. Turn off top-to-bottom gradient, but keep texture.
    Varnish overlay in finishing room. (Remember the aged-paint idea?)
    Blending paint between layers.
    Non-uniform scaling of stencils and layers
    Toggle between two tools. (Eraser and other tool)
    Lock stencil in place.
    Layers larger than canvas
    Paint with stencil - user-definable brush-heads.
    Square, round, definable brush profile. Soft to hard, etc
    Ref images should get out of the way when painting, like palettes do.
    Chat client
    Gallery Integration.
    Scripting, with 'save to disk' to auto-gen movie of speedpaint
    Translation pack for languages.
    Colour-sample from averaged area, inside selection marquee
    User-definable scratch-disk location. (For undo-files and cached image tiles)
    Paintable masks (masking fluid)
    Load canvas with paint, for wet-on-wet painting.
    ArtRage that can be run from USB drive (reg key stored with application)
    User-definable colour of panels.
    Colour-profile support. (ICC, printer gamut)
    Colour wheel, rather than (or in addition to) quarter/half circle. Complimentary colours diagram.
    Fixed-direction palette knife (and other tools) - eg calligraphy pen
    TabletPC text-input panel on text boxes.
    Small circle-indicator inside custom colour-pickers
    Hex colour indicator and input in Colour picker.
    Indicator in swatch panel for 'last chosen' colour.
    Import individual layer from another painting file.
    'Snapshot' of progress in cavas as sequentially numbered image file.
    Perspective tools, overlay. Dynamically adjustable. Grid overlay.
    Preview of layer transparency as you adjust
    Keyboard shortcut for merging layers
    Double-click translation buttons to reset.
    Wacom tool IDs. Tie to brush presets. Or tie to last tool selected with that stylus.
    Bump texture from layer beneath interacts with tool on layers above like canvas texture.
    Papers with coloured texture.
    Eraser respects grain (like crayon)
    Toothbrush spatter. (Might look the same as Airbrus spatter - would need investigation and remembering not to clean your teeth with that toothbrush afterwards)
    Spline path for stroke. (3-point curve, bezier handles, ) - flexi-curve tool?
    'Actions'
    Preserve transparency on layers.
    'Sketchbook' mode in ArtRage. Turn pages, etc. (Separate app?)
    Two-handed input eg: tablet and mouse - one tool for positioning friskets, the other for painting.
    Larger glitter particles, and different glitter particle shapes (hearts, stars, etc) (user definable?)
    ArtRage folder in File-dialog 'favourites'. (Shell extension?)
    Transparency in colour
    Auto-paint images. User-defined stroke (use last stroke to repaint image)
    Wrap edges of canvas when translating - allow painting of seamless textures.
    Multi-colour-loaded brush-head (from mixing palette)
    Custom textured sponge tool.
    Dynamic sizing of brush while doing stroke. (With custom input devices? Mouse-wheel? Flow-control on wacom stylus?)
    File-dialogs should remember individual preferences - eg: directories, file extension last used, etc
    ZLib-compressed painting files. (compress on a layer-by-layer basis?)
    Layer blend modes more easily accessible, and preview (like opacity does)
    Export canvas rotation/scale into output image.
    More tilt/orientation support from Wacom stylus
    Reference image can show preview of current painting, live updated. (useful when zoomed in to canvas)
    Left-handed ArtRage - palettes swapped edges. Current layout is right-handed-centric.
    Digital brush - doesn't add to itself until next stroke. (applied to temp layer first, then merge on mouse-up. Can use blend-modes)
    Procedural paper colour/texture. (ala TextureAnarchy!)
    Sumi brush - like nearly-running-out thinned black oil brush, for long stroke.
    Customizable default paper - starts with the favourite paper.
    Fill in file dialogs with file-name last saved with.
    Use hot-keys to select different brush settings during a stroke.
    Option to export all layers at once to numbered sequence of images
    Weighted eye-dropper to add more of sample to current colour, based on pressure
    CIE XYZ colour
    Auto-painting of pictures in various styles.
    Incremental save-as. Save-as next numbered sequence.
    Settable brush taper in oilbrush squarishness of the start of the stroke.
    Cmd+, to get to the application's preferences (when we get a preferences panel in ArtRage)
    modifier key with scrollwheel to change tool size, or pressure, or rotation of canvas.
    Colour bleed based on paper texture.
    Fur brush.
    Bitmap-brush - many impressions quickly. Adjust spread, jitter, rotation, size etc.
    Bitmap-brush - stretched bitmap along path - single or tiled with start/end section
    Wet glitter
    Text tool - type tool.
    Brushes dont auto-load - paint can run out over several strokes. Dip in paint to reload.
    Paint with transparent paint - just thinners to blend paint around.
    Paint-rag for removing paint - leaves paint in hollows, applies only to peaks.
    Paper-art: Cut out shapes, layer them over for different depths of surface.
    Ability to export 'assets' from a painting file: References, paper grains, tracing overlay.
    Blur/sharpen, colour adjust.
    Importable brushes from other applications.
    Reference image loaded from Web URL, rather than file.
    AndyRage's mantra for graphics engine code:
    "Sure - how hard can it be?"

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    Hi Andy things on the top of my list would be:

    Compass frisket (angles, circles, ellipses)
    Selection tool for cut/paste
    Display angle of stencil on stencil itself (near pin?)
    Snappable grids and guides
    ArtRage animator (only after the rest)
    Lock stencil in place.
    Perspective tools, overlay. Dynamically adjustable. Grid overlay.

    For me that will make Artrage the best

    Anyway for now i'll dream

    ps i'll buy the coffee
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    make that 148, Andy

    * Remove double tap feature (for hiding interface) when holding space for panning.

    Geez, what an impressive list. Some of those features I haven't even dreamed of, but can see how they would make Artrage into a totally crazy package.

    Looking forward to see what features you choose and which ones you you will discard.

    cheers,
    Peter
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    Bear in mind also that the list above doesn't actually include the features we're planning but haven't seen suggested on the suggestions forum. The list posted is just things that have been suggested here on this forum.
    You should see our private list here in our office...
    AndyRage's mantra for graphics engine code:
    "Sure - how hard can it be?"

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    I've tried to organise the list AndyRage posted, there are a lot of very good ideas.

    [NEW BRUSHES AND TOOLS]
    + Paint-rag for removing paint - leaves paint in hollows, applies only to peaks.
    + Text tool - type tool.
    + Wet glitter
    + Bitmap-brush - stretched bitmap along path - single or tiled with start/end section
    + [Bitmap-brush - many impressions quickly. Adjust spread, jitter, rotation, size etc.]
    + Fur brush.
    + Sumi brush - like nearly-running-out thinned black oil brush, for long stroke.
    + Digital brush - doesn't add to itself until next stroke. (applied to temp layer first, then merge on mouse-up. Can use blend-modes)
    + Custom textured sponge tool.
    + Multi-colour-loaded brush-head (from mixing palette)
    + Paint with solvent (and dripping onto canvas (blur))
    + Paint with transparent paint - just thinners to blend paint around.
    + Ink washes
    + Splatter brush - dribbled, flicked on tight direction changes. Drip, drip, splash! [Dupe - Spatter on airbrush. And/or entirely flat glitter] [Dupe - Toothbrush spatter. (Might look the same as Airbrus spatter - would need investigation and remembering not to clean your teeth with that toothbrush afterwards)]
    + Ink Brush. (like ink pen)
    + [Ink Pen. (China ink, very expressive). Definable stroke-path smoothing.]
    + Watercolour. Very wet! Salt! Water-drops!
    + Load canvas with paint, for wet-on-wet painting.
    + Dodge/burn brush
    + Paint bucket - Fill tool
    + Mixing-palette
    + Selection tool for cut/paste
    + Crop tool
    + Better blending tools

    [ANIMATION]
    + Option to export all layers at once to numbered sequence of images
    + 'Snapshot' of progress in cavas as sequentially numbered image file.
    + Scripting, with 'save to disk' to auto-gen movie of speedpaint
    + ArtRage animator

    [COMMUNITY]
    + Gallery Integration.
    + Chat client
    + Collaborative painting (ala Open Canvas)

    [FX]
    + Blur/sharpen, colour adjust.
    + Colour bleed based on paper texture.
    + Auto-painting of pictures in various styles.
    + Procedural paper colour/texture. (ala TextureAnarchy!)
    + Wrap edges of canvas when translating - allow painting of seamless textures.
    + Auto-paint images. User-defined stroke (use last stroke to repaint image)
    + Papers with coloured texture.
    + Varnish overlay in finishing room. (Remember the aged-paint idea?)
    + Torn edges when cut/pasting
    + Brightness/contrast controls.
    + Coffee-grounds, sand, string, wire, torn paper, etc. (Is there a way to make it user-definable?)
    + Gravity effects - paint running
    + Dogwaffle's PD Particles, like seen in ArtWeaver

    [ENHANCEMENTS TO EXISTING TOOLS]
    [Airbrush] [Chalk] [Paint Roller] [Paint tube] [Felt Pen] [Crayon]

    [General]
    + Bigger brushes
    + Dynamic sizing of brush while doing stroke. (With custom input devices? Mouse-wheel? Flow-control on wacom stylus?)
    + Brush-sizing at location of cursor - hot-key?
    + Brush presets - saved brushes. Option to save with colour on head.

    [Oil Brush]
    + Settable brush taper in oilbrush squarishness of the start of the stroke.
    + Square, round, definable brush profile. Soft to hard, etc
    + Better dry-brushing.
    + Brushes dont auto-load - paint can run out over several strokes. Dip in paint to reload.

    [Color Sampler & Color Picker & Colour Mixing]
    +Weighted eye-dropper to add more of sample to current colour, based on pressure
    + Hex colour indicator and input in Colour picker.
    + Floating colourpicker, and other palettes. Remembers location between sessions. Move to 2nd display
    + Indicator in swatch panel for 'last chosen' colour.
    + Colour wheel, rather than (or in addition to) quarter/half circle. Complimentary colours diagram.
    + Colour-sample from averaged area, inside selection marquee
    + Real-world colour mixing
    + Saveable colour mixing palette.
    + Real-world colour mixing
    + [Natural colour mixing]
    + CIE XYZ colour
    + Transparency in colour

    [Glitter]
    + Larger glitter particles, and different glitter particle shapes (hearts, stars, etc) (user definable?)

    [Eraser]
    + Eraser respects grain (like crayon)

    [Palette Knife]
    + Fixed-direction palette knife (and other tools) - eg calligraphy pen
    + Loadable palette knife. Also palette knife can scrape paint off canvas (interact more with canvas texture).

    [Stencil]
    + Paint with stencil - user-definable brush-heads.
    + Lock stencil in place.
    + Restrict painting to inside bounding area of stencils - useful for large tools
    + Stencil opacity, grouping, stamping stencil
    + Display angle of stencil on stencil itself (near pin?)

    [Pencil]
    + Precise pencil more expressive (size adjust on pressure)

    [Reference image]
    + Reference image can show preview of current painting, live updated. (useful when zoomed in to canvas)

    [Paper]
    + Customizable default paper - starts with the favourite paper.

    [Tracing]
    + Flip/rotate/mirror tracing image.

    [Shortcuts & Modifiers]
    + modifier key with scrollwheel to change tool size, or pressure, or rotation of canvas.
    + Use hot-keys to select different brush settings during a stroke.
    + Customizable shortcuts
    + Double-click translation buttons to reset.
    + Keyboard shortcut for merging layers
    + Constrain stroke direction with Shift. Point-to-point strokes
    + 'H' and 'V' keys permanent - can paint while like that

    [Saving]
    + Incremental save-as. Save-as next numbered sequence.
    + Auto save - setable time delay. Silent, or ask. Increment sequence so can revert to earlier version.

    [GUI]
    + Left-handed ArtRage - palettes swapped edges. Current layout is right-handed-centric.
    + Customizable interface
    + File-dialogs should remember individual preferences - eg: directories, file extension last used, etc
    + Tooltips
    + Customizable tool picker - in case we get too many tools
    + Ref images should get out of the way when painting, like palettes do.
    + Toggle between two tools. (Eraser and other tool)
    + Lighting controls. Turn off top-to-bottom gradient, but keep texture.
    + Better scale/rotate/move paradigm. Handles?
    + Zoom centre should be cursor, not centre of screen.
    + Multiple canvases open at once.
    + Reference image loaded from Web URL, rather than file.
    + Cmd+, to get to the application's preferences (when we get a preferences panel in ArtRage)
    + Fill in file dialogs with file-name last saved with.
    + Layer blend modes more easily accessible, and preview (like opacity does)
    + Small circle-indicator inside custom colour-pickers
    + User-definable colour of panels.
    + Translation pack for languages.

    [Layers]
    + Preserve transparency on layers.
    + Preview of layer transparency as you adjust
    + Import individual layer from another painting file.
    + Layers larger than canvas
    + Non-uniform scaling of stencils and layers
    + Dont edit hidden layers!
    + Layers arrayed as grid of thumbnails (optional!)
    + Bump texture from layer beneath interacts with tool on layers above like canvas texture.
    + Blending paint between layers.

    [MASKS & FRISKETS & GUIDES]
    + Paper-art: Cut out shapes, layer them over for different depths of surface.
    + Perspective tools, overlay. Dynamically adjustable. Grid overlay.
    + Paintable masks (masking fluid)
    + Snappable grids and guides
    + Masking tape - rippable, and bleed beneath.
    + Compass frisket (angles, circles, ellipses)

    [IMPORT/EXPORT]
    + Brush definitions like Photoshop
    + Importable brushes from other applications.
    + Export canvas rotation/scale into output image.
    + Drag-drop import
    + Twain Acquire - still-image from other sources. For trace, layer, and ref image
    + Export options - resize on export, change compression
    + Ability to export 'assets' from a painting file: References, paper grains, tracing overlay.

    [MISC]
    + Sketchbook' mode in ArtRage. Turn pages, etc. (Separate app?)

    [HARDWARE SUPPORT]
    + Wacom tool IDs. Tie to brush presets. Or tie to last tool selected with that stylus.
    + More tilt/orientation support from Wacom stylus
    + Support for the SpaceNavigator PE from 3DCONNEXOIN (http://www.3dconnexion.com/) - other input devices? (User configurable?) (Wacom 6D pen)
    + Two-handed input eg: tablet and mouse - one tool for positioning friskets, the other for painting.

    [SYSTEM]
    + ZLib-compressed painting files. (compress on a layer-by-layer basis?)
    + ArtRage folder in File-dialog 'favourites'. (Shell extension?)
    + TabletPC text-input panel on text boxes.
    + Colour-profile support. (ICC, printer gamut)
    + ArtRage that can be run from USB drive (reg key stored with application)
    + User-definable scratch-disk location. (For undo-files and cached image tiles)

    [VECTOR]
    + Spline path for stroke. (3-point curve, bezier handles, ) - flexi-curve tool?
    + Vector drawing

    [PLUGINS & SCRIPTING]
    + Lua plugin support: See examples of DogLua at www.thebest3d.com/dogwaffle/lua
    + 'Actions'

    P.S. - Some more suggestions that came to mind whilst organising the list
    + 3D poseable manikin with bob ross afro
    + charcoal including dust
    + aquarelles
    Charlie

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    Interesting.
    We will have to find a way to discuss without jumping from one suggestion to the other.
    It will be hard to follow and make sense of a discussion that keeps changing with each poster.

    Any insight on how we can discuss in a sort of rational way.
    :wink:
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    I didn't post the list so much to generate discussion - more just for interests sake. Anyone thinking ArtRage needs a feature can quickly check this list to see if it's already been suggested.
    AndyRage's mantra for graphics engine code:
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    "Sure, how hard can it be..." Friday good for you?

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    Sorry, english is not my language so...

    For your interest, here is the list of suggested features for ArtRage from the forum. We'll discuss them all.
    I figured it was a long list to discuss.
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