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Thread: Background painting technique

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    Background painting technique

    I am trying to create a smooth transition between the colours in a background and struggling. I am posting a couple of screen captures to show the current state of play. This is the best I have done so far after deleting other efforts.

    The first is my efforts to get close to the second.

    I tried plastering a whole layer with different shades using the oil brush and then blending with the palette knife. I made an awful mess! It was too streaky.

    Next up, I have tried the roller, airbrush, lighter oil settings, lighter and heavier palette knife settings.

    Lighter oil settings and heavier palette knife is the closest I have come and is demonstrated in the first image but there are still noticeable holes.

    Any help with this would be much appreciated.

    Sophie
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    I'm not sure I'm completely clear on what you're trying to achieve but something you may want to consider is that once you export a file and then import it, the tools and settings you used become irrelevant and you can blend it further from there. Hope that made sense.

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    Thank you Robert for answering this.

    What I am trying to do is sort of mimic the second image (which is part of a photograph) for smoothness of transition between colours. The first image is my efforts to blend colours more effectively and so far not succeeding.

    Any ideas gratefully received.

    Sophie

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    Suggested reading...

    erwinsoo's excelent tutorial on blending:
    http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums...pic.php?t=9228

    Enchanters interesting post on paper-roughness blending:
    http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums...pic.php?t=5799

    Peter has some interesting tricks on creating smooth via resize:
    http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums...pic.php?t=8962

    A quick writeup on creating gradients using transparency stencils.
    http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums...pic.php?t=9822

    On a personal note, I find that using paper with 0-roughness combined with crayons is a good method.

    DoodLS

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    The 0-roughness method is from Sweedies sky tutorial (but it seems to be offline at the moment).

    0. Start new image. I choose canvas, 300x400 pixels. Set background color to gray.
    1. Add layer. Edit paper setting for new layer. Set roughness to 0%.
    2. Select crayon tool (the one just left of the eraser tool). Reset. Set tool size to 100%.
    3. Add desired colours to your painting. I Alt+Click picked the colours from your example, but you may just use the bot-right color picker (dump01+dump02).
    4. When canvas have been filled I change Pressure to 20% and toolsize to 50%. The trick now is to smooth all the places where colours meet. Where two colours meet you simply Alt+click pick the lightest one. Then smooth to make the transition by going back and foth in z-patterns. Hard to describe - try it out, experiment.

    Now I go over the entire painting untill it's finished (dump03). You may try to go up/down in pressure. But the trick is to simply Alt+Click pick. z-smooth. Next area. Alt+Click pick, z-smooth. and so forth.

    In my final image I have two layers. The top layer is the smoothed transition. The bottom layer is just a gray layer with the canvas-texture.

    Happy,
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    DoodLS, you are a peach!

    Thanks so much for all this - very much appreciated. I may have to wait till the weekend before I get the chance to try this out. But I feel more confident of a positive result now. I didn't do very much with crayon, just brush, palette knife and roller mainly.

    Sophie

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    I'm a pretty new artist myself, but I found that the pencil tool is nice for this kind of thing. they blend well. kind of hard to see from the thumbnail, but that's what I used for the background in my avatar. started with yellow, then gradually moved the slider to orange (little by little) then to a red-orange. Over-lapped each change in color a bit before blending them together with the palette knife. Different texture than oils or crayons to be sure, but I like it Can find the full-sized pic in my gallery if you need it. All done in a single-layer. Best of luck!

    (Edit: changed "portrait" to "avatar.")

    (Edit #2: I'll post my own shot at this with pencil tool later on. right now though, I gotta get some sleep )
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    Like looking through a steamy shower door.

    Conversely, technique-wise, it seems like you have it covered.

    It's after 9 here, so what can I say. I cheated on my Rorschach tests.


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    Ok, here are my examples. You'll have to forgive me, I used the color picker rather than lifting the colors directly from your desired background pic, so they may be a bit off, but hopefully it helps anyway. Also, I turned the canvas so that it would appear vertically as your reference does, while I was painting, but it seems that it turned horizontally again when I saved it? can't find a way to fix it.. I feel like a bad example now ops: so turn your head to the side while you're looking at it? :lol:
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    "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away."

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    make the backgroung with the airbrush at 100%of perssure then smooth it with the same colors you took but with a very light pressure........thats's what i would do but tou may not want to use it......that depends of what style you want to do, i don't know! :lol: then ive smooth it with the brush tool with no paint and 90% thiner(diluant in french) heres's mine but it's the first time i try personally i think yours is better but im just giving you my ideas
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