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  1. #11
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    I easily would prefer artrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 357mag View Post
    And I would much prefer a real looking palette. Not a color wheel. A palette.
    A colour palette in painting/photo editing programs is a completely different animal from the colour wheel. Think of the real life painting analogy - your palette is what you have definitely laid out for painting and you choose from there with your paint brush, your colour wheel is where you decide your tones, hues, etc, and eyeball it. If you're thinking of a mixing area like Painter in ArtRage, you can actually use the canvas itself and eyedrop from there.

    Also you can hide the pods to make more room by using Tab on your keyboard on pc.

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    I'm very new at all this and I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about but I just got a Wacom Intuos tablet that came with Corel Painter Essentials. My first interest is in pencil drawing and pen and ink drawing although I hope to learn something about painting as well. Anyway I was very frustrated with Painter Essentials because I couldn't create a simple shortcut for the Eraser, among other things. It may be possible but I haven't been able to find anything about it at all.

    I've been using ArtRage on a tablet from time to time so I gave it a try on the PC. First, I have to agree that the interface is pretty clumsy but so is that of Painter Essentials. The difference, however, is that with Painter Essentials I kept running into roadblocks and with ArtRage on my PC, well, probably more roadblocks because I don't really know what I'm doing yet but I also keep finding solutions. I even keep finding solutions to problems I didn't know I had yet. If ArtRage has anything it has solutions.

    I'm a retired computer programmer, retired for a long time so Windows interfaces are something I've learned as a user more than as a programmer. However I've written a LOT of interfaces, in Windows and before, and I have to agree that these programs both have clumsy interfaces. But they work. In the case of ArtRage, everything seems to work well and I can either get used to or find workarounds for the things I don't like. And I can hit the E key if I want to erase.

    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypotaxis View Post
    And, FWIW, you will never get support like this thread from Hannah from Corel. In my experience Corelís customer care is very poor.

    Totally agree with that comment above Corel support i found was pointless, even after my wife spent a lot of money for a present for me, By buying Corel painter 2018. They seem to have the attitude - we got your dough, now go away. And what really galls her is that I after some time messing with Corels many bells and whistles program. And scrambling my bonce Getting to grips with it over several weeks I decided i much prefer using my Artrage 3-4 or 5 versions. Which are just so intuitive to use.

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    C.Painter is more expensive to make sketches, than ar5.
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    Smile Not impressed with Corel Essentials

    Quote Originally Posted by 357mag View Post
    I been trying both programs. Both are quite good. When I'm in Painter it seems like some of the brushes smear though. I can't lay down a thick bold stroke of paint with an oil brush. I have to use an Acrylic brush to get a thick strong stroke of color.

    With Artrage it appears that they have done a better job of providing brushes that lay down thick bold color. Plus they have the oil tube approach which lays down as thick as you can possibly get color.

    Got to say though that I never really like the Artrage interface as much as I like the Painter interface. The Artrage interface has these semi-circles on the lower left and lower right of the screen which I don't like all that much. I wish the developers would have chosen to do more like a Painter interface and just set the brush size by moving a slider or entering a number at the top of the screen.

    Can you think of other reasons why Artrage might be a better choice? I only do oil and I like to paint thick and bold. I like impasto too.
    I have tried Corel Essentials only due to the situation at home using graphic arts software on a computer with a situation where I do not have any internet connection, using Windows 7 Professional. Essentials is possible to activate without an internet connection, Corel Painter and Draw are not. I like the full Painter program yet do not like Essentials, the brushes I worked with in Painter are not included in Essentials. The latest version of Painter has pushed my favorite brushes into the archive menu of past versions, the new brushes they are adding are not very useful for my personal work.

    I believe Art Rage 5 is a much better program than Corel Essentials. Not sure if you will be able to use any newer versions of Art Rage past 5 on an older Windows 7 operating system without an internet connection, yet did find a work around provided here to install Art Rage 4 on a Windows XP machine and Art Rage 5 on a Windows 7 Professional machine without any internet connection. Art Rage works through the Wine application on Linux operating systems. I am able to use my installed version of Art Rage 5 on a machine that also has Fedora Design Suite 27, Art Rage works well in this operating system. Also have AV Linux 2016 on the same machine, Art Rage 5 works well on this operating system also. Art Rage also works in Linux on my older machine with Windows XP and Art Rage 4 through the Wine application on Linux.

    So far as the future is concerned a program to watch is the GIMP latest version 2.10. They have included many brushes from the MyPaint software program, the MyPaint software program seems to be finished, haven't seen any recent updates. Combining the features of brushes from MyPaint into the latest version of GIMP 2.10 is a definite positive improvement and upgrade. MyPaint never had any editing features and I have always managed to export a file out of MyPaint that needed some editing features into the GIMP to get the job done.
    Last edited by Stephen Lo Piano; 03-06-2019 at 12:53 PM.
    The very first digital art program that I worked with Art Rage 1

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    There is one section full of pages there under the Digital Artwork category that is devoted entirely to paintings I have created with Art Rage.

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