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Thread: Wacom Cintiq 21UX

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    Wacom Cintiq 21UX

    Hey everybody. I am considering upgrading to a Wacom Cintiq 21UX but I just wanted to put it out there and see if anybody else is currently using one and what your thoughts on them are. Are they worth the money and deliver an improved user experience and production? I have convinced myself that I need one but the pricetag is enough to make you balk. I've been looking at used wacom tablets for sale online and even second hand the Wacom Cintiq 21UX demands a high price. So I am wondering if it is really worth it. Is it a good choice for Artrage users? Have others experienced a considerable improvement in their work after having upgraded? Has anybody had a bad experience? Do others feel that it is worth the money? I'd love to hear other peoples thoughts on this.

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    I have the same problem and have been looking at a solution. Currently I am using a Wacom Intuos on my PC and a Genius G-pen on my laptop. They work fine but looking at the screen while drawing somewhere else is not the best.
    I purchased a 22 inch touchscreen monitor this evening that will be delivered in a few days. I have a Capacitive pen that I have been using on my touchscreen devices and am hoping it will work there as well.
    That should give me close to the equivalent to a 22 inch Cintique for about $450.
    That will be my Christmas Present when my wife finds out.
    Last edited by Raybrite; 10-14-2016 at 04:31 AM. Reason: add more
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    Hi Yes I'm useing a wacom 21ux model DTK-2100/k 3pens grip. art. and

    air brush with wheel think my model is about at a guess 41/2 years old

    manufactured feb 2011 so i think the 21ux that your looking at is a new

    model ok as you know you draw on the wacom screen and there is 8 button's

    on each side of the screen which I've never used as I'm not high Tec so I keep

    away from them but I've never had any problems with it ok so good

    i think juz has one and 2 more who's names i can't remember ok best of

    luck maybe 1 of the others will reply CIAO IVAYA CON DIOS SLAINTE

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    There are cintiq-a-likes that perform similarly and, in some respects, even better (according to artist reviewers).

    For myself I'm still thinking about an iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, and the AstroPad app combination with my mac. This brings about a Cintiq-like experience, with the screen on your Mac mirrored on your iPad, and I did try AstroPad with my older iPad and Wacom Intuos stylus (first generation). It worked but it would have been tons better with a Pro and a Pencil. Also Retina is a heavy load indeed on AstroPad so lag is noticeable. Unsure of how the lag between AstroPad as it is now (the developer is actively working on reducing lag) and a Cintiq is.

    But yeah, I would check out Cintiq clones.

    As for "how awesome is it to draw on the actual screen", it is actually pretty damn awesome, even with my lousy non-accurate stubby Wacom Intuos and a not very fit iPad 4 Retina. If I had a Pencil or Wacom tablet quality pen, and some better and speedier graphics, I would definitely not use a graphics tablet anymore.

    One thing I've noticed about Cintiq and various clones is that you probably want to be very careful about how hot the Cintiq/clone can get. It's one thing to draw on an iPad that still stays mostly cool. It is not nice to lightly burn your hand on your Cintiq, which I've heard people do. So a drawing glove made for Cintiq or similar clones is also something to add, especially paying attention to reviews as to how the glove fits and whether it has appreciable padding against light heat.

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    hi Ava i've use mine every day at least 8 hours min I did buy a glove from

    Wacom at the same time wh ich I used for two weeks as I thought it was to stop

    the hand making contact with the screen just to keep the screen clean but as

    I couldn't find it one day from then to now I never bother with it thats over

    5 years and it never gets hot only slightly warm OK the reason why a got it

    was I had just lost my wife so was on my tod and drawing was my only reason

    for being alive as for drawing on the screen I can't say i noticed any difference

    OK CIAO IVAYA CON DIOS SLAINTE

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    Onscreen drawing devices and more

    Found some more interesting devices for ArtRagers and artists:


    Drawing on screens:
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    Wacom MobileStudio Pro:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8BQlY2y9j8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGvUhtwRaNs


    Artisul D10 Pen Display Digitizer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6pY2aMOXQ


    Wacom Cintiq 21UX:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nx8lnj3E6Y


    Wacom Cintique Companion:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTTJ2sAyn3M


    Wacom Cintiq 27QHD Touch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8SYYpnXmHk


    XP-PEN Artist 22HD:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qtohstu_ME


    Parblo Coast22 Review:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoHjK_fwqo8


    iPad Pro vs. Surface Pro vs. Cintique Companion:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlspvcF-DKs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaO_ucAZ4dQ


    Cintique alternatives?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ChG-Av-SKU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA9c8rO08Hs



    Device for outline sketching
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    Wacom Bamboo Slate:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NWEwUVEyZs


    Have fun watching.
    Last edited by narf; 11-27-2016 at 08:45 AM. Reason: Addes new devices into the list
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    There are quite a lot of Amazon reviews on all of these, and it's best to get an idea from more reviews than just a single review? I guess, unless one is of the opinion that Amazon reviews are lies, but generally if something is bad tech people will vote the item down with a vengeance.

    As for "he who buys cheap, buys twice"—what are we all doing on ArtRage forums if we aren't shelling out for the latest Photoshop subscriptions? O_o It's just a very odd attitude to me. Sometimes cheaper is actually better, especially if a company has had a monopoly so long that they feel like they can charge more, and sometimes cheaper isn't.

    Sometimes more expensive isn't terribly worth it, sometimes cheaper isn't worth it.

    It's not always one way or the other.

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