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    Painter 2016 - anyone..? ArtRage 5..? Anyone?

    I did not buy Corel Painter 2015. I will not buy Corel Painter 2016 (the release was August 10). Painter is VERY high prize paint app...you have to pay more than 8 x the prize as for ArtRage. Is Painter worth it? No. Last version I bought was X3 (13) and I will stop there I guess. Painter is getting more and more complex, introducing more and more brushes every release ( is it 1000 brushes now?) and this time some new Particle Brushes just like Flame Painter...each new brush set costin $29.99...and a new Photoshop Painter plug-in...

    I was a long time a Painter fan, but the direction the developer it is taking with "...the impressive sensory selection of realistic Natural-Media® that perfectly emulates real life art materials..." is really not true any more. ArtRage has long time passed Painter in this respect. Just to mention one digital painting technique: the Watercolour tool in ArtRage is waaay better than in Painter, which is IMO just a laugh...and sooo ugly. Painter is not perfectly emulating real life art materials, not Watercolour, any way...

    so, I am waiting for the new ArtRage version. Anyone? Any information on that? ArtRage 5..?

    I love ArtRage...

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    i must agree over the hole line here, painter is VERY $ oriented;(becomes a high tech application inn such a way you don't see the wood no more due to the trees.before you can put 1 line of paint in that program? you need a calculator and a search engine.And to be honest? bottom line, can we even still call it a " paint" application?
    PS, even a "upgrade" cost you +-$230 ;(

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    Yes that is the beauty of AR, it's powerful simplicity!
    In the real world if I want to draw something I grab a sheet of paper, a pencil and begin. And ArtRage is the same.
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    Yes when I got my Wacom. It come with Corel painter. And it was too high Tec for this old sod but I
    Already had artrage. Which came with bamboo. Tablet and was so easy to start with even for me ok

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    I suppose I simply like to stick with what I know. I have looked into other programs out of curiosity, most are too expensive, too complicated, or just don't do it for me. Art Rage takes learning, for sure, but for some reason it is simply fun. I love experimenting with all that it can do. I know for sure I have not found out all that it can do. I am certainly not an accomplished artist. We have some truly brilliant artists in the Art Rage community. Seeing what others have been able to do with Art Rage is astounding to me. And, the generosity of so many who offer their expertise is exciting. I personally want to thank all those who contribute to helping us all learn. To the Art Rage team, I also extend thanks for their willingness to help any who seek it. I am not sure that I have seen such direct communication between developers and users with other programs as I have seen with the Art Rage team.

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    I did get Painter 2015, and have tried to use it but I found it was just tooooo much. I totally agree with everyone that the power of ArtRage is in its simplicity and it has an amazing range of function with a few tools. It does not get in the way of the creative process and the ArtRage team and support for the forum and gallery have created a generous and friendly atmosphere for all digital painters no matter the skill level.

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    Ye! That's the way I like it..!

    Quote Originally Posted by markw View Post
    Yes that is the beauty of AR, it's powerful simplicity!
    In the real world if I want to draw something I grab a sheet of paper, a pencil and begin. And ArtRage is the same.
    I really hope AR will keep on this design - simple and effective - yet powerful..!

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    Painter 2016 is actually a streamlined version. They have reduced the number of brushes and combined a lot of brushes. Also, they have finally fixed the blending. Now you can blend without picking up the white layer underneath. They have added a more realistic look to the brushes called dynamic speckles. I wasn't going to get the upgrade, but they offered their $99 deal to 2015 owners and they added tool tips on all the brush control functions. That is what made me try the new upgrade. I am glad I did because this version is finally getting closer to ArtRage with the paint look. The tool tips are great and I am finally learning Painter, lol. However, I really don't have much use for the new musical brushes. Yes, they really added musical brushes. I guess, if you are into trying to combine the two art forms, this is something you would like. Anyway, I think this is the best version of Painter so far because it finally blends like ArtRage. ArtRage is still more fun and easier to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllieTaylorArtist View Post
    . . .However, I really don't have much use for the new musical brushes. Yes, they really added musical brushes. I guess, if you are into trying to combine the two art forms, this is something you would like. . .
    Wow! The mind boggles as to what that might mean in practical use. I recall that since the very earliest days of personal computing that they have had programs that generated music in practical yet also in abstract ways -- supposedly in an effort to bridge the concept of correlating color and tone with notes or pitches. And well before that musicians have drawn inspiration from and actually tried to transpose art into music and artists have messed with similar concepts, particularly in areas of abstraction where they were working for other ends than subjective ends. That's most intriguing to see whether it would feel right using those musical brushes or whether it would open up something wholly different.

    I can also imagine that it opens the door to visually impaired artists who could pick colors and formulate a relationship or even a paradigm based on sound. Pretty darn interesting conceptually.

    Anyway, it's too rich for me to try out and I don't have a need for it. But it sounds like a brilliant play thing for tripping out, hahah. I remember when we first had color paint programs on the Amiga computer with D-Paint and the like and some of those brushes created kaleidoscopic patterns that cycled the 16 colors. . . intense fun in a darkened room creating light shows. But there was really nowhere to take it. But it was so sensory and exciting as the virtual painter's curtain opened for the world! Wow. I know those stupid little "hacks" inspired me to really dive in. It was irresistible bait for the creator in me.

    Nice to see someone trying to push the envelope and try to create a market in a new area regardless whether I can justify buying it or not. Sadly, it's too rich for my blood for a lark. My money's spent elsewhere.

    But I still think that for the visually impaired and for those with more of an auditory bent, this could be super. I also don't need prosthetic legs thankfully and would blanch at the price of buying some, but I don't have a problem with people developing those masterpieces for those who can use it where no price is likely too much. I was sort of surprised to see how many legally blind artists are out there, some of whom post incredible stuff in the forum. They work with what they have because it has meaning and joy for them. It may be hard for them to do regular art in the real world because it lacks the magnification tools and brightness controls and so on.

    Yeah, yeah. . . Go ArtRage and all that (meaningfully stated here). But credit where credit is due.
    Last edited by D Akey; 08-18-2015 at 07:58 PM.
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    It has been there a long time...

    Quote Originally Posted by EllieTaylorArtist View Post
    Painter 2016 is actually a streamlined version. They have reduced the number of brushes and combined a lot of brushes. Also, they have finally fixed the blending. Now you can blend without picking up the white layer underneath. They have added a more realistic look to the brushes called dynamic speckles. I wasn't going to get the upgrade, but they offered their $99 deal to 2015 owners and they added tool tips on all the brush control functions. That is what made me try the new upgrade. I am glad I did because this version is finally getting closer to ArtRage with the paint look. The tool tips are great and I am finally learning Painter, lol. However, I really don't have much use for the new musical brushes. Yes, they really added musical brushes. I guess, if you are into trying to combine the two art forms, this is something you would like. Anyway, I think this is the best version of Painter so far because it finally blends like ArtRage. ArtRage is still more fun and easier to use.
    I agree that Painter 2016 is a somehow refined version concerning the brushes. But I don't agree the final fix of the blender. It has been there a long time. It just has been overlooked by the users. I use Painter X3 and all the blenders of the "artists" category is blending towards transparency, not blending towards the background colour. Just like in the picture below where I used the Grainy Blender, one of the "blend towards transparency" blender brushes. And those blender brushes were there even before X3...

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    Painter introduced som more "gimmic" brushes in this version, the "Musical" brushes. In the 2015 version they added the "Particle" brushes... And Painter is supposed to be the leading realistic Natural-Media paint software...
    Last edited by Henry Stahle; 08-19-2015 at 05:32 PM.

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