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    A collective 'Rage project #1




    Hi all,

    I'm thinking of a fun collective project we could play with.

    This is just a first draft to the idea, there is still room for optimizing it.

    Here goes:



    Someone would start a canvas, no matter how elaborate or minimal that starting point would be,

    then post it here,

    then someone else picks it up to add some work on it (by copying the .jpg image, maybe? or is there a way to pick up the .ptg file version here?),

    and then post the augmented version here for someone else to pick it up,

    and so on.

    At some point, from comments, feedback and concensus, we could decide "when" the piece is "completed", and if we find it "valid" enough in artistic value, we could select a charity to which we could offer it as prize for a fundraiser. The ArtRager who ended up unknowingly "completing" the piece could be the one making the final selection of which charity it goes to.

    Perhaps it would be good that only one participant at a time works on the piece, by "claiming" it in the comments. Or else we can find another way, allowing that many participants are working in different directions at the same time from any given start point (same iteration)... This could produce a multitude of different resulting artpieces, and I'm not sure how we would go about managing that (if "managing" need be!).

    This is just a first go at brainstorming the project, so I'm not sure how we'd go about the printing and shipping to the chosen charity, but I'm confident we'll sort it out and tweak it appropriately.

    We could define a few criteria which we would like to see respected.

    For one example, I would like a criterion where each participant wouldn't try to hide whatever pigments were already on the canvas, but rather "work with it" and make the best of it. Some covering of pigments can and will end up happening, of course, if only by trying to blend some new pigments with prior ones, and even eventually gradually cover a lot of what was there previously. My point is, we would enter this studio with a particular mindset, stepping up to this challenge of making the best of what is already there, working with it, working around it, as a process. Yes, lots of the prior pigments and composition might end up all covered at some point, but not in a one-shot deal.

    This brings to mind in particular the Eraser tool - it probably shouldn't be allowed on someone else's participation, but could be used of course on our own bit of participation while we're working it, if we first work our part on a separate layer.

    This type of project would emphasize team-work, aiming at a win-win for all individuals and for the team, for the resulting work.

    We would decide beforehand if a participant may work at one canvas more than once.

    There would be no style or genre restriction. Mixing of techniques and styles/genres are welcome. And more challenging!

    Every participant would implicitely renounce any individual ownership or copyright of the "collective work resulting of all those compounded and melded pigments from individual participants", those pigments having become melded into a "collective something else than the initial assembly of pigments by individual participants". However, if one were to have saved a layer or a copy or a duplicate or an original-before-duplicate of what pigments they put down on the collective canvas, this production resulting strictly from that individual artist would still be "owned" by said participant artist, apart from the "collective result owned by no individual".

    Or, still with the fun and challenge notions,
    we could think bigger, in the eventuality that this collective artwork would become so famous and praisable and potentially valuable, and plan a clause for such eventuality, where we would make this artwork a limited edition of two "original prints", one which would go to the chosen charity, and the other to the highest bidder. And from that standpoint we could also plan for another (limited? open?) edition of prints, for instance at a different size than the "original 2/2 edition". These eventual sales' profits would be divided between all participants who would opt in for this option (opting out of it would of course be available). After all, who knows, we might even end up earning a few pennies from this!

    We could even have more than one canvas/artwork going in parallel, in different threads.


    This is all in good fun, camaraderie, and challenge.
    And of course, respect.


    This is not the thread where to start such a project canvas, this is just the platform for brainstorming the idea.



    This may end up as a big flop even before any canvas ever starts, lol.

    This may end up taking YEARS before any sense of completion (by consensus) is reached.

    Who knows!

    ...and... Who's up for a challenge?

    More ideas?

    Questions?

    Feedback?



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    Edit - Feb17 - I added #1 in the title.


    Last edited by Rachelle; 02-18-2015 at 04:27 AM. Reason: added " #1 " to the title

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    This could be very interesting. A mosaic of the talent of the ArtRagers combined.

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    I took part in something like this when belonging to a Paintshop Pro users group. First members were asked show interest in a proposed challenge - then a theme was chosen (or was it the other way around?) anyway, the initial image, say a beach scene, was sent to the first person on the list - they would add their embellishment and pass it on to the next person on the list. This image would be zipped in layered format before sending on.

    They were fun and I would be prepared to take part in a painting challenge along the lines you suggest.
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    OK, I would start with a scenario I prepared many years ago (with the initial AR edition) and which may suggest already a mood, a palette and a lighting for the painting to come ... I hope You may like it and finding it inspiring as well.
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    Panta rei (everything flows)!

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    We highly encourage collaborative projects! This sounds like it will be fun to watch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachelle View Post
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    then someone else picks it up to add some work on it (by copying the .jpg image, maybe? or is there a way to pick up the .ptg file version here?),
    It should be quite easy to share the PTG file. It may get a bit large, of course, but Dropbox and similar filesharing services will probably work fine (except for people on limited internet - may be worth keeping it at a certain canvas size).


    Perhaps start it and see what happens, then learn from the first one? People could put their hand up to take the next shot, the previous poster can nominate someone if there are multiples, and it can move onto another person if they don't respond within a certain amount of time, to avoid people wandering off and stalling the entire project (you could always come back and ask for it again).
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    Cool!

    Bobbi, Enug, Caesar

    Thanks for the feedback, fellow 'Ragers, this is great!

    Hannah
    Thank you for the encouragements, the tech tips about Dropbox, and also about keeping the size relatively comfortable (canvas not too voluminous).

    Gracias for the suggestions on how to "pass the torch" to another 'Rager - grab or nominate, etc.
    Also yes, let's not get bogged down with perfecting the rules, we can very well start a first canvas as a "beta" project, lol, to test run the notion, and refine the terms if need be.

    Caesar!
    Great of you to have provided the first canvas! Grazie!

    Suggestions are still welcome of course, and let's get this party bus on the road right now!

    Who wants first pick at Caesar's canvas?
    Or, Caesar,
    do you wish to nominate someone, and we determine a reasonable deadline for that member to acknowledge with accept/decline?

    Whichever happens first!
    Someone grab the canvas (state your claim in a post here), or Caesar nominates someone.... roll the drums!

    Suggestions are welcome on the notion of determining a reasonable deadline for "accepting the torch"!


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    Well, looking to the willing participants this far, I would see June/ Enugpaint the second step (or layer or whatever), while I'm sure You, Rachelle may add to colors and lighting Your kaleidoscopic touch of shaped translucencies and transparencies and Bobbi textural and metallic/ 3D like effects out of her magical wand.
    I've no doubt that for a bewildering humor content we may address Eighty+ . I wouldn't miss Alexandra's fabulous and original contribution to the story and characters, Jean's contribution to the mood or Robyn's professional artistic skills for a painterly and well composed outcome. i would indicate also many other mates and friends I now see only rarely or no more here since sometime ...
    Anyway I hope I kicked the ball and I guess the second step
    Panta rei (everything flows)!

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    Okay, help a block head like me. How do I grab Caesar's painting to add to it?

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    Here is a contribution to this group fun.
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    and here's another addition

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