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Thread: Smaller increments for zooming with buttons?

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    Smaller increments for zooming with buttons?

    I know you can zoom very smoothy by using Shift + "hover" dragging. However, much like I can currently Resize my tools very smoothly by pressing the [ ] or "arrow" keys (or use Shift + [] to resize at larger 10% increments) I would very much like to be able to do the same thing for zoom. Why is zoom strangely so clunky when using buttons? The increments are huge, unfortunately.

    Is there a way to do this with buttons, the way I can already do it with Resize?
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    The mouse scroll provides very nice increments of zoom. Tablets (should) all have a scroll like strip or something, with the same function, or that can be programmed for that.

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    Hmmmm... What I just discovered (at least on my setup as it currently is) is that scrolling with the mouse wheel alone doesn't actually zoom-- it scrolls the painting up and down the screen. However, if I hit Ctrl + mouse wheel, it zooms quite nicely. Not every percent like Resizing does, but by much smaller increments than hitting Ctrl + +/-. Perhaps approx 10% increments.

    Does anyone know why this is? Is there a way to get the buttons themselves to just do this? For now though, I'll try and find out if this alternate method does what I need it to do. Thanks!
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    Hello,

    Don't you notice that zooming with buttons give sickness? Is it only me? Personally, I always use the canvas positioner. I reduce it (with ctrl and the mouse): it is always there and not disturbing. It is why I prefer the ArtRage 3 canvas positioner to the ArtRage 4 canvas positioner. When it is reduced I have a tendency to click on the increments buttons I want to avoid absolutely. It would be great if we could select the canvas positioner we prefer, don't you think so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve B View Post
    Hmmmm... What I just discovered (at least on my setup as it currently is) is that scrolling with the mouse wheel alone doesn't actually zoom-- it scrolls the painting up and down the screen. However, if I hit Ctrl + mouse wheel, it zooms quite nicely. Not every percent like Resizing does, but by much smaller increments than hitting Ctrl + +/-. Perhaps approx 10% increments.

    Does anyone know why this is? Is there a way to get the buttons themselves to just do this? For now though, I'll try and find out if this alternate method does what I need it to do. Thanks!
    Hi Steve,

    You can choose between having the mouse wheel zoom in/out, or move your canvas up/down. It's in the Input Device Group on the Preferences panels (see image below).

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    The Ctrl + - and Ctrl + = is probably a nod to how Photoshop always handled zooming. From what I can tell, there is no way to change the increments it will jump. You might want to try the Canvas Positioner. The zooming it allows is very smooth, by clicking and dragging over the top magnify glass icon. (Edit - I see Claudine beat me to this suggestion while I was getting my screen shots, but I'll leave this here to point out the dragging method the positioner allows).

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    Sos,
    That info on the Input Device is very helpful to see. That may be just the ticket.

    Of course, normally, I'm using Shift + hover-drag to Zoom, which is what I do if I'm using a keyboard and is how the Pen-Only Toolbar works its zoom function. We're exploring other methods of interaction with the Auto Hotkey buttons, and so I was looking at different ways to zoom that were less "spatial" (as in, needing to move the pen around). This stuff with the Mouse Wheel, now that I see how it works, is probably just what I was looking for.

    Thanks! I never would have found this out on my own guys!

    OT, but related--
    BTW, I am also currently looking for a similar way to Resize smoothly by button-presses, but which keeps the dynamically expanding/shrinking tool "circle" on screen for visual reference. Right now, if I press Shift + drag, I can Resize fluidly and see how big the tool will be, thanks to the "circle". However, if I press buttons to Resize (like the [] keys or "arrow" keys) the circle goes away. Resizing is still fluid, which is nice, but I want to see the Tool-size-circle for contextual reference, the way I do when I use the Shift + Drag method. Is there a way to achieve this with buttons?
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