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    How can i fix this.. update

    so that shes not quite so 'toothy'? comments welcome

    This is my niece..and the reference pics.


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    Last edited by moosie; 09-06-2012 at 11:20 AM. Reason: added update
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    Hi

    I would tracing over the mouth and teeth for exact placement and size but that is the easy way. Then paint it.

    Just a THEORY....IT MAY HELP. I am not so good at freehand painting so I have tried this way and it worked for me.

    Good luck and happy painting......

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    Some things you can do:

    Thicken up the lower lip a little bit and cover a bit of the teeth with it.
    Don't forget that teeth have shadows and that some gum shows! Once you do that, the contrast between the smile and the rest of the face will be less!

    Hope it helps.

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    You know Moosie, your very close to nailing it! Don't give up!
    Don't you see she has no nose? I know you did a nose but its the shadows that are missing. That defines the nose more than the nose itself.

    Now, the same thing goes for the mouth and everything else. On the very ends of the mouth are shadows and in other places on the teeth, Etc. Use the top ref pic to stake out the shadows and various darkness of shadows, the bottom ref pic is too washed out IMO but still valuable.

    Remember to paint what you see and not what you know

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    Thanks everyone

    Bobbyray....I actually did line up her mouth with the ref pic lol..the girl has naturally large teeth( her mom calls them her $10,000 dollar teeth)


    Homiedude believe it or not i've actually made her mouth smaller in the pic lol


    Jibes i swear my computer is out to get me..I know i put all those shadows etc in there..they disappeared when i posted
    ...seriously what i see on my art rage canvas isnt always what it looks like when i post..and i know my room light changes my view of the screen as does the angle of my screen, i often have to get up and look at t he screen from a different angle to see exactly what ive done lol.

    Your 'criticism' wasnt tough lol It was very helpful and its why i keep posting here
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    When doing a painting of someone you know ( which is most difficult of portraits ) then the elements of the face have to be spot on.
    Be sure and trace the various features from one of your samples or the likeness will not be there.
    Foe example looking at your reference photo's which I know are quite small I would say that the eyes on the painting are too far apart.
    This goes for the mouth and the overall shape of the face to get the correct likeness these things have to be exact.
    Hope this helps a little.
    Geoff

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    The eye goes to the area of most contrast first (and detail too but first likely issue is contrast in most pics). Your other features are close in values so they don't pull the eye as much as the white teeth against the skin/lips. So in order to balance it all, you need to punch up the rest of the head is all. As was mentioned, it's going great though!
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    update..

    Well I am rather pleased with this...but your comments are always welcomed


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    Well yes I like it greatly improved, just one tip the catchlights in the eyes should be in the same position on both eyes.
    Well done.
    Geoff
    Last edited by limey-g; 09-06-2012 at 11:41 AM.

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