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  1. #1
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    Shameful

    NOTE: Black & White sketch in order to avoid a too horrible view.

    I hope our Rager hosts would agree on my view that this is not a political vignette, not in my conception, rather the reaction in front of news denying any etical or civilization principle and versus their causes which are, as usual, strategical and political stupidity and short sight.

    I could never stand Qaddafi, his criminal deeds and the hate and humiliations he reserved to Italians descendants once living there and to Italy, even far beyond the end of colonialism and after all was done to honestly repair, support their developement and become friendly neighbors, with obvious interests concurring too obviously, let's not be hypocrites.
    I wasn't against civilian defence by UN resolution and I agreed on Qaddafi military power weakening by air attacks. But then?




    Many questions arise then now on this story.
    • Is this going to be like this the new Lybia?
    • Did NATO observe the mandate of UN to just defend civilians, not to have Qaddafi or his family as a target, by means of several ennecessary hired killer air attacks up to the final one against a bunch of desperate fugitives, ending up with a savage lynching?
    • Wasn't the mandate eventually just used by the megalomany of a couple of former powers wishing to stop their actual decay and their wish for big business with gas and oil? (obviously not even thanking, let it inviting, who participated and made available and served the closest airbases)
    • Do these "leaders" worry as much about Syria or other Gulf dictators? They don't even care not of Europe beyond their greedy interests.
    • Was it really for establishing a democracy in Lybia, merely conceived as a voting excercise I'm afraid should it actually get an adjective democracies shouldn't have and becoming based on a medieval literary interpretation of a specific religious law system which doesn't recognize the universal human rights principles in several cases?
    • Why do we find some past regime dark main figures to apparently lead the new Lybia too?
    I'm really disgusted by what happened and shame on the responsibles according to their share!
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    Last edited by Caesar; 10-27-2011 at 04:08 AM.
    Panta rei (everything flows)!

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    Well bat me over the head with a cricket bat I'm I thought u

    Where in favour of that sort thing just show's it's easy to get your Cues

    Mixed

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    Justice yes, but not this way executed....

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    Thank You, dear Anna and ATPlus the Old.

    The International Tribunal for Human Right (the one judging and jailing Serbian criminals) was since the start of his repression waiting for him to be judged and would have allowed a right and most civilized human justice if Lybians were too much emotionally involved or frankly unabale to set up a serious trial (not the one for Saddam for instance).
    Moreover execution is not foreseen by such a tribunal, rather a neverending confinement. In fact death penalty is considered by almost all advanced countries a substially useless and etically unacceptable practice that U.N. is also trying to remove through a moratory, quite unattended though, mainly by the worst regimes nobody would be aside of whom.
    I'm afraid there was too many people fearing what Qaddafi could have said to leave him alive!

    In addition there's great delusion and disappointment hearing that the new Lybia would be democratic, but its laws would be founded and legitimate as far as they reflect the Shariah, the Islamic Law, which, in its usual literary interpretations, evidently leads a medieval, primitive legal system where people and women in particular are not considered equal, vengeance has a role and several corporal punishments, up to death, are foreseen. Do we really need another Iran, Saudi Arabia and so on to solve those populations problems?
    Panta rei (everything flows)!

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