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Thread: 2 suggestions/wishes

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    2 suggestions/wishes

    I'm loving and using artrage more and more, and am still missing some features:

    1: option to adjust opacity of the paint applied, independent from loading/thinner settings. Using the thinner makes the stroke either too grey (loose saturation) or when used with the insta-dry option, doesn't pick up/move the underlying paint.

    2: have the reference image dissapear when I paint underneath it, the same way the menu and palettes dissapear when I paint and move the brush on the canvas to a spot they occupy. Or at least have it as an option would be great!

    Would those changes be possible?

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    Hey Lastbrat,

    I was playing with thinner things as well. If you use loads of thinner and turn the insta-dry on, you will get the transparent brush effect you want. For instance, a 30% opacity brush would be using 70% thinner with insta-dry on.
    My personal setting is 35% pressure, 70% thinner, 100% loading, insta-dry on, auto clean on, and square head on.
    The colour actually gets blended as well... a transparent yellow on blue will still look green- a different way of blending though, of course not as natural as the actual colour blending.

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    I know, I use that too, but the fact remains that no underlying paint is blenden/moved around when insta-dry option is enabled.

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    I am not really into programming, but I guess colours are only blend-able when they have 100% opacity (with thickness, like real painting). Less than 100%, things are different.

    For example, I have the attached picture below: 1 and 2 are done in yellow and blue with 30% opacity; 3 and 4 are done using the same colours with 100% opacity. Notice that the areas 1 and 2 are different, 3 and 4 are the same.

    It reminds me CMYK- that you have to print cyan first, magenta second, yellow third and black in the end. If you do it right, you get area 2 which is the green you want; if you paint yellow first and cyan second, you get the wrong colour like 1. Yeah, with transparency, even the same two colours get different blending results. And that's why I think it's hard for the technology.

    So why 3 and 4 are not as green as 2? Because a 30% yellow has 70% white in it, and a 30% blue has 70% white as well. White has no hue. The resulted colour is only going to be more pale than green.
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    Another thought

    You know in real painting, if you blend two complementary colours the result would be gray or grayish colour. But the CMYK systems doesn't work like that.

    All I am saying is that when you paint 30% orange on 30% blue, the computer doesn't know which colour to pick up or to blend: 30% purple? 30% gray? 30% pale orange? 30% blue (no blending at all but results in a 60% blue overall which is wrong)? Or is it 100% pale purple etc. (but you are using 30% brush)?

    So it's really a conflict between traditional media and digital media.

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