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    need help with Chinese painting

    Hi everyone

    I am very new in ArtRage. In fact I only know this software when I bought my bamboo fun. I install it and start playing with it. After 2 day, I am addicted. Even I only have 3 mins, I still draw some strokes, and play with it. I love it so much. But more I play, more I want to get out of it. Now I set up my very first project and got stuck already hahah.

    All I want to try is draw a pic like this. (sorry i cant post link...)
    if you search google and the word "chinese painting", u will see alot of paint, and i only want to leanr black and white at the moment

    A Chinese drawing, mainly black and grey and white.

    the stroke is very beautiful and i want to learn it.

    Can someone tell me what and how I can achieve this in ArtRage? Like what pen I need, and what paper?

    I saw a lot of people draw fantastic pic in here. I really hope I can be like one of you guys.

    Have a nice day.

    Sam

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    oh by the way, do you guys always draw on pencil first before colouring it?

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    Do have a list cheap Web developing Software, I'm alwasy looking out for more programs

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    Cool Good question

    Are you asking about the Materials used for Chinese Painting? hmm
    Interesting I'd think a watercolor- with a caligraphy type brush
    I'm not too sure - I don't think it'd be too hard to research , I'd like to know myself, I never really thought of doing that-
    I'm not much of a painter

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    Are you sure

    Not much of a Painter - YET - that is lol I just haven't had time in that area just yet. Are you sure thats the art form you want to practice at?
    There guilds in Asia devoted to such things, places that pay the Artists, and the Artists LIVE ON THE PROPERTY- it's more a Village/Art Collective
    In parts of Asia , whole lil hidden villages make very expensive pottery and have been doing such a thing for thousands of years, it makes western culture look unorganized really.
    You should check out some of the Thailand wood carvers, they'll work on one very expensive wood for 4 years in the same spot with another Master Craftsman by his side- the talent amazing - this is why you don't see the west doing eastern art- lets just say it would be a large waste of time- look for Chinese Bone Crafting online
    you'll also see what I'm talking about.

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    sorry man i was thinking abt how to do this paint in ArtRage

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    From what I saw of the chinese b&w paintings online, it looks like you would have the most success using the brush tool. You can adjust the size, pressure and thinners to achieve the look of water color. Experiment! And have fun!
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    yea, the the size of stroke and colour makes me think brush too
    but i never see anyone draw anything like them before
    so i am not sure
    or is it a style no one actually try drawing before?
    i will try it later and see can i come up with anything and let u guys have a look

    good luck to myself
    ^_^

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    Talking

    Quote Originally Posted by wsam7 View Post
    Hi everyone

    I am very new in ArtRage. In fact I only know this software when I bought my bamboo fun. I install it and start playing with it. After 2 day, I am addicted. Even I only have 3 mins, I still draw some strokes, and play with it. I love it so much. But more I play, more I want to get out of it. Now I set up my very first project and got stuck already hahah.

    All I want to try is draw a pic like this. (sorry i cant post link...)
    if you search google and the word "chinese painting", u will see alot of paint, and i only want to leanr black and white at the moment

    A Chinese drawing, mainly black and grey and white.

    the stroke is very beautiful and i want to learn it.

    Can someone tell me what and how I can achieve this in ArtRage? Like what pen I need, and what paper?

    I saw a lot of people draw fantastic pic in here. I really hope I can be like one of you guys.

    Have a nice day.

    Sam
    hi~~man.i'm an Paintting guy from Chinese.if u wanna any help,u can mail me to (icaver@gmail.com)or MSN (CAVER@LIVE.CN). Very nice meet u at here !!

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    Normal Chinese Painting is completly done with a brush and ink.
    The funny thing is the construction of the brush. European watercolor
    brushes have the long hair in the middle and the short hair on the
    outside. Brushes for Chinese painting have the short hair in the middle
    and long soft at the outside. With this construction the brush can hold
    extremly much ink and it makes it possible to draw wide and small lines,
    even in one brush stroke.

    It is not used as European brushes eighter.
    The artist holds the brush vertically to the paper and hand and arm does
    not touch the ground. The brush is only used in a diagonal angle for
    drawing the transparent ink parts. But the brush is held nearly
    in the same way like when holding it vertically.

    The most tricky part is the construction of the image itself. It consists
    of 3 motif layers. These are arranged on the imagef ollowing the principles
    of Tai Chi and Yin and Yang. (http://z.about.com/d/diyfashion/1/0/U/5/-/-/YinYang.jpg)

    This means the picture is divided somehow into 2 parts with 2 little subparts.
    But earlier I wrote something about 3 motifs. If the image contains humans or
    bulidings the 3 motif part is added in a motif layer between heaven and earth.
    The position of this layer shall respect the importans of nature.
    Humans and their buildings shall not dominate the image motif and so shall not
    dominate nature.

    The textures on the image are done after the principles of Yin and Yang too.
    You can see the wavy structures everywhere.

    Rocks, mountains, trees, houses and everything else show the 3 faces of the
    stone. This means they are all threedimensional. Imagine a box or a cube.
    You look at them so you can see 3 sides of them.

    So what do we finnally have?

    We have a painting which is constructed of a bunch of modified boxes which
    are arranged on the painting after the principles of Yin and Yang, sky (heaven)
    and earth, with textures on them which are following the principles of Yin
    and Yang too. And sometimes you have a sort of submotif layer between sky and
    earth containing the human factor.



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