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Facenna
09-28-2007, 08:22 PM
Hi everyone!

I'm new to ArtRage and this forum - in fact, I'm new to digital painting!

I'm a very traditional artist, who has finally come around to seeing computers as an acceptable way to create art. I fought it for a long time, but that's a whole other debate! ;)

This is my first digital portrait. It was a challenge, using tools I'm so unfamiliar with and yet familiar with at the same time! But I always did enjoy a challenge, so I WILL be doing more! :)

Critique please!

Many thanx,
Helen

D Akey
09-28-2007, 08:40 PM
Fine actor.

If you want a critique on the likeness, the original photo would be helpful.

:D :D :D

Facenna
09-28-2007, 08:59 PM
I really want critique on the technical/tips aspect, thanx!

I don't like art to be a 'spot the difference' kind of thing. ;)

I'm more interested in - are my values OK? And colours? Is anything too disturbing or distracting to the eye? Could I have used the ArtRage tools in a different way, to suit the subject better, for example? Stuff like that... :D

:!: But, of course, you can say whatever you like as well!

Helen

Caesar
09-28-2007, 10:26 PM
First of all the portrait is wonderful and concentrates very well on the parts enhancing the cogitative pose (I suppose he's the one who played also a Harry Potter professor). The tones (greys) are OK as well, so are the colours considering that apparently You used only one layer or You did not use layers extensively for transparent glazes as in ancient times, nor did You use a more extreme impressionistic technique. There's only a colour area that, in my view, is slightly to red, in the centre left of the front.
So the only technical significant improvement, certainly allowed by ArtRage tools, would be perhaps on the skin texture perception which might be expected in such a near field portrait. (to be perfectionist)
Artistically speaking the portrait does not extract all of the intimate psychology of the subject, but this is almost impossible from a picture of a guy You either do not see or know personally and it rarely occurs anyhow, mostly on portrait of the greatest masters in art history. I would also look in future for a slightly more original interpretation departing somehow from national "art school learnings" which tend to homologate and repeat traditionally success styles.
I hope this is in line with what You expected as a critique and I hope You will forgive me for daring to express my views to an evidently high professional artist without any real competence in art critique (I only have a passion for art history and paintings) and a far poorer painting skill, .
Best wishes

Facenna
09-28-2007, 10:36 PM
Hello Caesar!

Thanx so much for your very interesting critique!

As for "art school learnings", I am entirely self-taught. I'm afraid I am just naturally 'tight' and pedantic. :roll:

I would LOVE to be more "painterly", and it's something I fight with constantly. Believe it or not, this IS quite loose for me! :eek: (Below you can see an example of my traditionally created work.)

I am actually hoping that ArtRage will help me to loosen up in my interpretation of images. Next time I will try harder to let go of some of the control I cling to in all things!

Thanx so much for taking the time to assess, comment and ultimately assist my awareness!
All the best to you,
Helen

shirly
09-28-2007, 11:03 PM
both the portraits are wonderful.....
the second one is of "snape"...... the harry potter character i believe ....i don't know the original name actually!!!

Caesar
09-28-2007, 11:20 PM
I'm glad You interpreted well my positive intent and You felt all the appreciation towards Your evident absolutely natural (You told us) gift.
You must be undobtedly intelligent, self-aware and wise enough to know Your provisory limits (to fully convince and satisfy Yourself more than others) so that You'll be able to overcome them over and over.
Obviously all of us are immersed in a specific culture that may keep us within determined school learnings. What we use to use tend to pose constraints to our taste somehow.
I'm sure that You'll be far more successful than I was to find new ways and tracks as well as to confirm and refine Your traditional one with Art Rage which, in this sense, is and absolute wonder! There are plenty of AR mates here who improved and changed styles dramatically. You'll certainly get another dimension of artistic freedom.
Cheers (I apologise for my english in case)

AndyRage
09-28-2007, 11:41 PM
Welcome to the forums, Facenna.
Those are both fantastic portraits - full of character and expression.
I look forward to seeing more of your work.

barnburner
09-29-2007, 01:21 AM
I'm new not only to digital painting, but painting in any form, so I lack the experience to comment on your techniques, etc., but I know good work when I see it, and your's is excellent.

pai
09-29-2007, 05:58 AM
Hi Facenna,

To me, these are excellent portraits. :D I'm also new to painting since I got Artrage in February. So, I only have more than half year experience in painting (actually digital one only) and I cannot give any advice since I need it myself to help me. Could I ask how long have you been self-teaching in drawing/painting to be this good.

ENCHANTER
09-29-2007, 09:47 AM
excellent portraits........both of them.......

I only started digital painting last year.....takes a bit of getting use to but once you've been bitten...........

:D

no more setting up and getting dirty :D

_Lady_Art_
10-01-2007, 10:39 AM
portraits are excellent facenna I know that actor... :) especially I know him from Harry Potter movies... :) his second portrait in the way from Harry Potter movie... :) :wink:

rdajtcd
10-22-2007, 08:35 PM
The actor is Alan Rickman.He was also in Robinhood w/Kevin Costner,and also in Quigley Down Under w/Tom Selleck.
I think both portraits capture him quite well and I have only dreamed of talent such as yours!I am new to all of this so I can't help with the more "technical"critique you are looking for.I hope to learn how to use the software with better results than with Paint,which came with my laptop.I get too frustrated with it.I will post work,when I do something worthy of showing.I'm trying to work in digital more because I love some of the works I've seen.I am a"paper artist,i.e.collage,atcs,decos,journals etcetera.Thanks faceanna,for posting such great work!

erwinsoo
10-23-2007, 11:59 AM
Please post more. Would love to learn from your works and gain some insights from a traditional artist.