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mjerryfuerst
07-15-2022, 07:10 AM
For example mixing blue and orange produces green, rather than something towards grey
Can compliments be mixed somehow to get various grays?
Rebelle 5 seems able to do this.

DarkOwnt
07-15-2022, 07:19 AM
I suppose it's a trade off...

can you mix yellow and blue to get green in Rebelle 5?

What happens when you mix red and green ... or yellow and purple... in Rebelle?

mjerryfuerst
07-16-2022, 08:24 AM
yellow and blue mix to green in Rebelle and ArtRage
BUT
yellow and purple mix to a brownish in Rebelle, similar to paints; wrongly to red in ArtRage
blue and orange mix to greyish in Rebelle, wrongly green or red in ArtRage

red and green in both Rebelle and Art Rage mix to somehing redish green, very sensitive to the proportions
Rebelle seems to come slightly closer to a gray


So the problems in ArtRage color mixing are (1) yellow and purple (2) blue and orange

Enug
07-16-2022, 06:35 PM
This is what I get in AR.

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nekomata
07-18-2022, 02:07 AM
For example mixing blue and orange produces green, rather than something towards grey
Can compliments be mixed somehow to get various grays?
Rebelle 5 seems able to do this.

hi,

two options I can think of, depending on your app version and workflow preferences.

1) in artrage vitae, you can create your own blending profiles for the real color blending paint mixing mode.
you can save them for later use, you can make several different presets, and see if you can get the results you're looking for across the variety of paint tools you use.

2) you can start your images in rebelle, lay the color washes down, and export that to artrage. any dry medium inside of artrage will simply glaze the pigment over and over, and wet media will blend according to artrage's internal model, but you can always correct stuff later, by either overpainting directly, or using color correction tools.

hope this helps!

mjerryfuerst
07-20-2022, 08:37 AM
It seems that real color blending is the less real

cinematik
07-20-2022, 07:17 PM
I usually turn RCB off because it makes it easier for me to control the color. For colors that cannot be obtained this way, you can use presets. If this option is enabled, it will get unnecessary shades where they are not needed, like here

https://forums.artrage.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102312

cinematik
07-20-2022, 07:31 PM
In both cases the pallete knife was used for color mixing and it is not hard to guess where RCB mode was enabled...

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DarkOwnt
07-21-2022, 05:21 AM
In both cases the pallete knife was used for color mixing and it is not hard to guess where RCB mode was enabled...

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Just to add to this, note that color blending using original tools will suffer saturation artifacting, while color blending with a "Custom Brush" will not create strong saturation artifacts.

cinematik
07-21-2022, 09:12 AM
Just to add to this, note that color blending using original tools will suffer saturation artifacting, while color blending with a "Custom Brush" will not create strong saturation artifacts.
I would prefere to mix colors (wich is blending too) with a special tool (like a pallete knife) because there are several custom brushes and it is easier to hot key a pallete knife and use it for blending.

nekomata
07-21-2022, 04:58 PM
It seems that real color blending is the less real

I don't know the exact blending mechanics behind the real color blending, Y+B=G thing aside;

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it is capable of producing really clean, vibrant mixes of paint if you work in highly saturated, bright colors, and the paint blends stay pure longer compared to other apps/default blending model.

I don't use high-key palettes that often, but when I do, I switch to real color blending because of this.

most of us actually prefer the way the custom brush tool blends the colors because the nuanced, muted colors are handled better by that, by a lot of artists jump into artrage to create colorful, vivid artwork, and I think they'll prefer to use an extra option to better match their style.