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Slap Happy Larry
10-17-2014, 12:56 PM
First, thanks Artrage team for the awesome 4.5 updates.

I was interested to see the addition of a grid. Now I'm wondering how artists are making use of the grid, apart from using it to draw freehand from a reference. (I prefer to trace -- an advantage of digital art. But of course it depends on the look you want and how you achieve your drawing zen...)

I've noticed that many digital artists make use of perspective lines rather than simple grids, for example this artist, who has shared his/her process (http://www.cgpin.com/board/pins/9/21251). I can't quite work out what the different colours of grid represent, and how each has been used... I think the red is to do with the viewer's perspective, the blue to do with a light source (?) and the purple... Well, I'm not sure exactly. But obviously these lines have been used to help paint the building structure above. Is anyone using this kind of gridline in order to achieve the realistic/fantasy look depicted here? If so, can you tell me how this artist has made use of each colour grid?

Also, how are you using these non-2d perspective gridlines in Artrage? The best I can come up with is perhaps to keep some grid images in a folder somewhere, import to trace, then convert them to paint in their own (temporary) layer, then use the perspective>transform tool to get them looking how you want.

In short, asking for tips here rather than sharing any.

Aunt_Betsy
10-23-2014, 07:05 AM
I have been using the grid with the "snap to grid" feature for making tiled backgrounds. I can get a precise 45 degree angle this way. I make a small tile using the Symmetry tool set at 8 divisions, then save it and load it back in the using the fill tool's pattern fill. With the 45 degree angle I get the more pleasing pattern that is more diamond shaped rather then straight up and down and side to side rows.

I also use the grid for aligning objects and stencils.

Slap Happy Larry
10-23-2014, 11:59 AM
I have been using the grid with the "snap to grid" feature for making tiled backgrounds. I can get a precise 45 degree angle this way. I make a small tile using the Symmetry tool set at 8 divisions, then save it and load it back in the using the fill tool's pattern fill. With the 45 degree angle I get the more pleasing pattern that is more diamond shaped rather then straight up and down and side to side rows.

I also use the grid for aligning objects and stencils.

That's cool -- are you able to get a repeatable pattern like this?

jmac
10-23-2014, 01:38 PM
That is a very beautiful pattern!

Aunt_Betsy
10-23-2014, 01:53 PM
That's cool -- are you able to get a repeatable pattern like this?

Yes, if you make your tile with the symmetry tool. I'm using 8 sections to make sure that I get completely repeatable seamless tile that will work well on the diagonal.

When I go to fill in the pattern I have the snap to grid function on and I click on the center of the grid and drag the cursor out a little at a 45 degree angle. If the "Lock Scale" function is unchecked, how far you drag the cursor out will determine how large you pattern is.

I have been using my own stickers in the sticker sprayer to make my seamless tiles, it's a quick way to make a tile with lots of dimension because of the shadow settings and 3D effects that stickers can have.

The pattern fill is lots of fun to play with. I have tried all kinds of objects to see what it would look like as a pattern.

Victor Osaka
10-23-2014, 05:46 PM
Ahhh, you are so talented Aunt_Betsy!

Aunt_Betsy
10-23-2014, 10:10 PM
That is a very beautiful pattern!

Thank you jmac!



Ahhh, you are so talented Aunt_Betsy!

Thank you Victor! Actually it is all about the tools. I am highly mechanically inclined by nature so for me it is about trying to figure out how to exploit the tool. I especially like to stack tool effects. In the pattern below I used:

1. The ink pen with smoothing and the Symmetry tool to create a simple shape.
2. I used the ďselect layer content" from the Edit menu to confine the shape.
3. Using the metallic paint setting for the glitter tool I filled the shape and then used blur setting on the Pallet knife to create a shiny shape. I go over the shape with the ink pen set at the color I want with the metallic set at 100%.
4. I then used the ink pen again to change the color of the tips of the shape to white. For white I reduce the metallic paint to about 50%.
5. I loaded this shape as a sticker.
6. I used this sticker with the sticker sprayer to create a tile using the Symmetry tool.
7. I loaded this tile into the pattern fill and used the grid and snap to grid function to create this pattern.

So you see it really isnít about artistic talent. It is more about an apparition for the very powerful tools that are available in ArtRage and a willingness to play with the tools to see what they can do.

copespeak
10-24-2014, 08:44 AM
You have really got the grid, stickers and symmetry tools working brilliantly Aunt Betsy. Fantastic! :cool:

Aunt_Betsy
10-25-2014, 04:06 AM
You have really got the grid, stickers and symmetry tools working brilliantly Aunt Betsy. Fantastic! :cool:

Thanks Robyn,

I really enjoy playing with the tools in ArtRage when they come out with a new one.

Victor Osaka
10-25-2014, 08:41 AM
Hey, figuring it out IS a big talent!

I used to do a lot of machine embroidery and your technique reminds me of that sort of work. Something very, very pleasing about your pieces.

Do you have a video showing your technique?

Slap Happy Larry
10-25-2014, 11:13 AM
Thanks for sharing your process, Aunt Betsy!

Aunt_Betsy
10-28-2014, 02:29 AM
Hey, figuring it out IS a big talent!

I used to do a lot of machine embroidery and your technique reminds me of that sort of work. Something very, very pleasing about your pieces.

Do you have a video showing your technique?

Thanks Victor! I worked in manufacturing for decades, for me itís all about figuring out the process and then working it repeatedly to do it quickly and efficiently. I now have hundreds of 3X3 inch 300 dpi seamless tiles.

I donít have the software to make a video. I tried it once some time ago but it would work right and I deleted the free program I tried it with. I might try to make a recorded script in ArtRage to document the process.




Thanks for sharing your process, Aunt Betsy!

Your welcome Larry! I didnít mean to highjack you thread. I made a couple of edits to the process, so you might what to read through it again.

Here is a tile that I made with just the ink pen set with lots of smoothing and the Symmetry tool set to 8 segments.

Panaslonix
10-28-2014, 04:18 AM
Dear Aunt_Betsy,

Thank you for impressing technique for doing tiles.

There are several points not clear for me:

6. I used this sticker with the sticker sprayer to create a tile using the Symmetry tool.

7. I loaded this tile into the pattern fill and used the grid and snap to grid function to create this pattern.

Can you explain these points in more details, please?

Thank you in advance.

Aunt_Betsy
10-28-2014, 05:19 AM
Dear Aunt_Betsy,

Thank you for impressing technique for doing tiles.

There are several points not clear for me:
6. I used this sticker with the sticker sprayer to create a tile using the Symmetry tool.
7. I loaded this tile into the pattern fill and used the grid and snap to grid function to create this pattern.
Can you explain these points in more details, please?

Thank you in advance.

Here are a couple of screen shots that might help. You can use anything you want to create a tile. Some of my best are made with just the "ink pen". You just need to export your tile and then load it into the pattern fill to create the tiled background. For a very precise fill you should use the grid and the snap to grid feature. Just practice using different files to create the pattern fill and you will get the idea. For the pattern fill with the diamond configuration, click in the center of the grid and drag the cursor out at a 45 degree angle.

I when I am creating the tiles I have two different ArtRages open, one that is tile size and a bigger one for creating the pattern fill.

I hope this helps.

Panaslonix
10-28-2014, 05:51 AM
Dear Aunt_Betsy,

Thank you for your reply!

BR,
Panaslonix