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Gms9810
08-24-2014, 09:34 AM
Just curious. Has anybody started to draw something with only a basic idea, then let their mind take over and end up with something they had no intention of drawing?

I ask this because I sat at my 'art nook' this afternoon with the intent of drawing my little artist's mannequin and ended up with a person sitting on a sofa in a dark room with all sorts of things happening in the dark behind him. I didn't plan it but the person was obviously me. We've been going through some bad days lately, but I hadn't planned to draw anything like this.

Peter Pinckney
08-24-2014, 10:00 AM
Absolutely!

This has happened so many times for me that I can't count...............all I can say is, enjoy the journey, because every time I've posted the resulting pictures I have received huge praise....................proving that (for me at least) we should trust in that most feminine part of us, intuition!

Rondo
08-24-2014, 10:54 AM
that happens to me all the time....,seen something that i want to try......but ends up completely different!!:)and like Peter said....when it happens? let it happen:)

copespeak
08-24-2014, 11:46 AM
This one began as a small scribble. Small oil on canvas about 4 years ago. Life had dealt some hard knocks around then, but I still love it.


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hypotaxis
08-24-2014, 08:23 PM
Oh boy I think that's really good Robyn.

Brett

copespeak
08-24-2014, 11:31 PM
Thanks Brett! I'm quite fond of it too. It did just start out as a squiggle with no plan in mind. :)

D Akey
08-25-2014, 08:53 AM
@ Robyn:Awesome! Love it. I'm glad George asked this question and prompted you to post this.

@ George: Mr Pinckney is a great example of someone who has mastered the technique of using inspiration. Been watching him do it for years and evolution and all that do come when you take it to finished pieces.

Well, as to your question, it's certainly not uncommon to have that happen and it's the dominion of those who don't have clients asking for something specific at the moment. One of the things that's hardest when doing commissioned work is that when those ideas come, as they will often times when you're headed in a specific direction, is to grab it and wrestle your momentum back to what it is you're supposed to be doing.

The creative artist inside can perhaps make some notes and go back to it later, hoping that the fire is still burning when you do, or you might get away with letting it influence what you're doing if appropriate. Commercial art is largely a discipline (can also be fun and challenging and a growing thing though). But it's a fine line between aiming your creative shots and losing the ability to be spontaneous with fluidity.

Writing is a great example of where the story will run off with a will of its own and, again whether it's a good or bad thing is determined by whether you're writing for a specific reason (example a script for an existing set of characters in a particular universe) or if you're making something up and have the where-with-all to follow it out to the end, good, bad or indifferent. Big names in the arts have each their own way of managing it, and they're successful in both cases. So whatever works for you.

It's a constant tug-o-war because the inclination is to run with whatever is welling up from inside because there's definitely great energy potential and the possibility to do something very fresh. And those who can do that are very fortunate and will often create scenarios wherein that creative flow is stimulated. For fine artists, A.D.D. and schizophrenia and all can be your friend for the artist's a-Muse-ment. Or it can conversely be something that will make it really hard to get a handle on a complex thing that requires continuity in direction.

But while you got it happening and you have no pressure to do something different, heck yeah! Run with it. It's super fun to discover there's a whole other creative voice inside who's clamoring to get in the mix and play.

One caveat, if you are running with the flashes of inspiration, make sure you most often keep drawing or painting it out to a complete resolution, lest you just get distracted out of taking anything to a high level because it will split your comfort zones among (to use a chess anology) beginning, middle and end game. You want to be practiced and strong each step of the game.

MJSparks
08-25-2014, 11:14 AM
Many of my best pieces just started out as doodles. Especially in my metallic paint phase. (should be in my gallery link on the profile).

Also a good one is to find a word generator and generate one word and let your imagination run with it. Or I used a program called apophysis for a while, (I don't know where I picked it up at) but it would generate random swirly colored pattern goodness and it was like when you lay down in the grass and watch the clouds and see images in them.

Have been writing as of late so there's not been any new updates in quite a while. Life seems to sideswipe me everytime I get a foothold on my creativity. Writing has been a good outlet in the interim though!


Good luck.

Gms9810
08-25-2014, 12:02 PM
I'm all for spontaneous ideas, I just didn't expect the result to be so dark. I was (and am) going through a period of depression, deeper than usual. I guess i manifested itself that way.

D Akey
08-25-2014, 12:43 PM
I'm all for spontaneous ideas, I just didn't expect the result to be so dark. I was (and am) going through a period of depression, deeper than usual. I guess i manifested itself that way.

Then in your case, Carl Jung would applaud and probably talk about art therapy (which seems to be spontaneously happening for you) for surfacing stuff that is looking for an outlet or resolution. One of the more interesting angles on what Art and the creative process can do. It's often indirect, though not always, but can often be looked at for the symbolism generated, and if you can crack the coded language of the symbols being generated, you will at least gain insight, often times very deep.

Not saying this is what's going on with you, but a for what it's worth. Doesn't always mean there's only negative stuff. Could be positive as well. Sometimes Art can act like a lucid dream with all the stuff that goes with it.

Fascinating stuff.

Anyway, based on what you said, I'll go in that direction and say that I hope things take an upswing for you.

Gms9810
08-25-2014, 01:14 PM
I'm just as nutty as a Pecan log, as least I'm not alone.

MJSparks
08-25-2014, 03:01 PM
Depression is a difficult thing to go through and not many people truly understand how someone going through it feels. Sometimes the things we draw and write manifest what we're feeling inside... sometimes this is a good thing to get out. Recognize it for what it is and then you can step through the darkness. Other times, it can scare us, but the important thing to recognize is that your mind is trying to help you address your inner self in a way that makes sense to you. I would definitely write down how you're feeling about the piece or talk about it with someone you love and trust. Never be alone with depression, surround yourself with your loved ones and let them help you if they can.

I was diagnosed with major depression SAD. Winters are the worst for me, but my husband and family support me and we try to do things to help me get through it. This was the first year I didn't require medication. Now if I can just get rid of my anxiety... I'll be a quarter normal.

Gms9810
08-25-2014, 04:46 PM
Yeah, I deal with SADD too, it gets worse as I get older. You're right, it's hard to deal with, largely because unless one has it a person, most people, don't understand how it can crush a spirit. It starts around the middle of October for me. Every year I wonder if I'll live to see spring. I always do, but the feeling is always there.

MJSparks
08-25-2014, 05:51 PM
Mine starts when the leaves start to change and gets progressively worse as it gets colder. I completely understand your feelings, winter feels like a choking cloak of shadowy death around me. Things that have helped me were changing lightbulbs in the house to white light and plants/terrariums and meditation. My mother tends to do a tanning session once or twice a month and that helps her, but I can't bring myself to go sit in those things. All I think about is the sweaty bodies that were in there previously. ICKY!

If you need an ear, I'm always lurking. ;)

Enug
08-25-2014, 08:04 PM
While not suffering this debilitating illness I have very close family members affected, one unfortunately couldn't continue with the battle. So I do understand a little of what you are feeling. I have had a taste of depression while living with sufferers and needed medication myself.

The more this illness is spoken of and brought out into the open, hopefully more people will understand that this is not a condition that you can just shake off.

Treat yourself kindly and know there are others out there thinking of you and wishing you all the best.

Gms9810
08-25-2014, 08:42 PM
Mine starts when the leaves start to change and gets progressively worse as it gets colder. I completely understand your feelings, winter feels like a choking cloak of shadowy death around me. Things that have helped me were changing lightbulbs in the house to white light and plants/terrariums and meditation. My mother tends to do a tanning session once or twice a month and that helps her, but I can't bring myself to go sit in those things. All I think about is the sweaty bodies that were in there previously. ICKY!

If you need an ear, I'm always lurking. ;)

Something about that sweet smell leaves have when decaying I think helps get it started.

Gms9810
08-25-2014, 08:44 PM
Strangely, it seems that some of the most creative minds in history had depression issues.

hildee
08-25-2014, 10:14 PM
Yeah, most people, don't understand how it can crush a spirit.

I know what you mean. I had CFS for many years, I still have to pace myself, and that led to a lot of anxiety, depression and lack of motivation. Creativity really helps - but no motivation, like a vicious circle, can rear its head from time to time. For many it's a torment. I was born eccentric to start with, so that didn't help, although I much prefer it to dull and boring lol.



Strangely, it seems that some of the most creative minds in history had depression issues.

I got Touched With Fire by Kay Jamison out of the library years ago and ended up buying it. It's a fascinating read about the artistic temperament and mental anguish.

Gms9810
08-26-2014, 03:59 AM
Maybe the AR people should start charging for group therapy.

D Akey
08-26-2014, 04:56 AM
Maybe the AR people should start charging for group therapy.

Capital Idea! Very supporting, I mean sporting of you, George. So how much ya got?

Gms9810
08-26-2014, 08:06 AM
Put it on account on account I'm impoverished.

D Akey
08-26-2014, 08:51 AM
Put it on account on account I'm impoverished.

Broke, eh? Well, this just in. . . you're cured, son. Miraculous recovery. :p:rolleyes::D:D:D

MJSparks
08-26-2014, 09:33 AM
When I did that art history article a couple years ago, depression was a major theme amongst all artists of all varieties and walks of life. Also inter-family depression is a big thing it seems... Perhaps there's a scientific correlation to creativity and genetics? Anyone know someone who needs an idea for a study grant? I would participate, most certainly to bring light to something that needs to be looked at. Some suggest that Depression will rise to the second most problematic health disorder in the US in a few years.

It's really hard to get motivated in the winter. Fall, has it's distractions of holidays that break up the mood... but the dark feelings always lurk around even during those times. Expressing, sharing, talking in whatever form helps... (my brother and sister blog... and yes, it seems to be genetically ingrained in my family)

Gms9810
08-26-2014, 09:49 AM
.... Also inter-family depression is a big thing it seems... Yeah, my kids cause that. 30 years old and giving me grief.