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Sigbjornpederssen
12-26-2013, 01:58 AM
Hello everyone! just joined the forum so its my first post. Started using artrage maybe 4-5 months ago, and love it. I mainly use oil brush, palette knife and paint tube. I paint fantasy and medieval stuff for the most time. You can also find me at sigbjornpedersen.deviantart.com
heres my newest artrage paintings oldest at the bottom newest on top:
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The lasts one is a fan art based on a screen picture I took when watching the tv series Game of Thrones, except for the sword and background wich is my own design.
The number two is ment to be one of the four horsemen, death. used reference picture on horse, its not perfect but im very happy with the result.
Newest one, the dragon painting I made is probably my favourite painting I have made so far, no references.

So enjoy, and critics are welcome as well as tips about how to get better!

I will add new paintings to this thread once in a while.

D Akey
12-26-2013, 06:07 AM
Fantasy and drama. Love the combination. I think you should be well proud of these. They're complex and yet read very well.

I only make this comment because you asked not because it bothers me. It's for consideration only as something to bear in mind later.

The Death rider one is great. I love the overall. What is challenging my enjoyment a little is that the light at the top is very eye-pulling. The eye naturally goes to the area of most contrast. And here the area of most contrast is at the very top edge of your painting and it's an effort to come back and look at the areas that are comparatively subtle.

There can be arguments made about the idea of Death sneaking around where we're not looking, and so on. But the question is whether that translates into visual sense on the page, or does it just pull the viewer out of your story.

As to strategy when constructing a picture that tells a story that gives the artist a choice between putting the viewer into the picture as if they are seeing what the main character is seeing with all their limitations or do they have what's known as 'audience omniscience' in which the audience knows everything which is useful as for example when you want to show that the main character is going to be surprised and we choose to show what is about to happen to them for dramatic tension, whether they know it yet or not.

So for example if there's a situation where the character is in a dark cave and they can't hardly see because it's so dark, does one make a picture that's very hard to see anything (in which case you have a rather pointless picture)? Or does the artist still show the audience everything in a dramatic way and indicate that the main character is not seeing everything.

Anyway, as to use of lights and darks, I personally think that the hierarchy of information in a painting should be chosen and presented to the audience as they roam around the painting. Many of the fantasy illustrators would light the sky behind the Death figure to maximize the power and in-your-face menace of the character and draw the eye to that. Lighting is one of the primary tools we have as artists.

But that does not mean that this picture is not good. It's great. I'm just offering a way to show off your great work to quicker advantage.

I'm looking at your pic on a Mac and the difference between that and PCs is significant, and monitors vary. So it might read clearer on your computer than mine. But still, my comment could be something to use under most all circumstances.

I love these, and I think that dragon one with the fire and the figures is brilliant. And I think the Brothers Hildebrandt (the early illustrators of Tolkien's work) would sense a kindred spirit in you.

Well done indeed!!!!

borrel
12-26-2013, 10:11 AM
great job! well done I love It!

Sigbjornpederssen
12-26-2013, 02:35 PM
What is challenging my enjoyment a little is that the light at the top is very eye-pulling. The eye naturally goes to the area of most contrast. And here the area of most contrast is at the very top edge of your painting and it's an effort to come back and look at the areas that are comparatively subtle.

There can be arguments made about the idea of Death sneaking around where we're not looking, and so on. But the question is whether that translates into visual sense on the page, or does it just pull the viewer out of your story.

As to strategy when constructing a picture that tells a story that gives the artist a choice between putting the viewer into the picture as if they are seeing what the main character is seeing with all their limitations or do they have what's known as 'audience omniscience' in which the audience knows everything which is useful as for example when you want to show that the main character is going to be surprised and we choose to show what is about to happen to them for dramatic tension, whether they know it yet or not.

So for example if there's a situation where the character is in a dark cave and they can't hardly see because it's so dark, does one make a picture that's very hard to see anything (in which case you have a rather pointless picture)? Or does the artist still show the audience everything in a dramatic way and indicate that the main character is not seeing everything.

Anyway, as to use of lights and darks, I personally think that the hierarchy of information in a painting should be chosen and presented to the audience as they roam around the painting. Many of the fantasy illustrators would light the sky behind the Death figure to maximize the power and in-your-face menace of the character and draw the eye to that. Lighting is one of the primary tools we have as artists.

But that does not mean that this picture is not good. It's great. I'm just offering a way to show off your great work to quicker advantage.



I really appreciate that you took your time with to write all this. Yeah I agree with you on the rider painting, and youre completely right it is distracting with the bright light up top it takes too much attention. I was thiking about several ways to do the painting before it ended up like this one, including more light directly around the rider as you said, but sometimes I struggle alittle with that sort of thing, keeping a certain type of atmosphere I want and at the same time have the viewer focus on the right places. I believe im slowly getting better at it. If I repaint it one day I will do it as you suggested you gave me some great mind pictures about how I could have painted it when I read your post.

Thank you very much for your good advice and kind words, its really appreciated!

Niloc
12-27-2013, 01:51 AM
Great entrance to the forum, dynamic styling, I really like it

copespeak
12-27-2013, 09:26 AM
Three fabulous paintings .... beautiful rendered. Yes, the bright light could be reduced somewhat ... maybe smaller and not so bright/ perhaps a bit more light edge around the rider/ maybe move the light across to the left? I don't care, they're all wonderful!! :cool:

Weeks
12-27-2013, 10:22 PM
Great job, and welcome.

Best,

Weeks

Sigbjornpederssen
12-28-2013, 03:17 AM
Thank you very much everyone. copespeak, yeah I should have done that, if I were to repaint it now I would add alot more light around the rider, maybe some extra smoke/fog and remove the high contrasts inthe sky. I see the things I should have done differently everytime I look at the painting now, kinda annoys me, haha. I will probably fix it one day, maybe in a year or something I have so much other things I want to paint first.

Sigbjornpederssen
12-28-2013, 11:15 AM
A new painting I finished today, this is how I imagine the wights, From G.R.R.Mīs book series " A song of ice and fire"
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stevemawmv
12-28-2013, 12:06 PM
Welcome Sigbjorn!

You got me hooked, at the 'Game of Thrones' artwork!
Very well done!...Love the books and the series!
All four are fantastic paintings on the own rights, great job!
Take Care,
Steve

My humble paintings:http://forums.artrage.com/showthread.php?45586-Stevemawmv-Just-my-Paintings-(HAPPY-HOLIDAYS!)

copespeak
12-28-2013, 12:49 PM
Dark, dangerous and beautiful, all at once!

Sigbjornpederssen
12-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Steve, thank you very much! Thats nice to hear I love those aswell, the tv show is great, but the books are just so much better in my opinion. Im going to make alot more paintings based on his books I just love that world.
I saw your thread, your portraits looks great!
copespeak, thank you, your gallery is also just amazing. That painterly, traditional look you two have is something im trying to achieve on my own paintings, but havent found out a good way for me to paint like that yet.

copespeak
12-28-2013, 05:47 PM
Don't change, it's working!!! :) :)

coops
12-29-2013, 12:09 AM
These are all wonderful and I enjoyed each one of them, well done:)

SilverO
12-29-2013, 03:26 AM
They all look really stunning.
I love GoT, can't wait to see more paintings from you
I'm going to stalk you on deviantart;)

Sigbjornpederssen
12-29-2013, 04:42 AM
copespeak, thats kind of you to say, I wouldnt change my style, just add to it. I think it would be even better with a more painterly style I just love that traditional style look with rough, bold strokes that looks just right if you know what I mean. I believe I would be able to paint alot faster that way, but im not at that skill level yet. hopefully I will get there eventually.
coops and SilverO, thank you!

kenmo
12-30-2013, 04:25 AM
Love these paintings and in the great tradition of Frank Frazetta....

joelmpr
12-31-2013, 08:02 AM
Welcome Sigbjorn:

These are amazing paintings. You have a new fan in me. Hope at somepoint you can share some of your techniques with us. I certainly will pay attention to what you have to say. Good job!!!

regards

Sigbjornpederssen
12-31-2013, 11:29 PM
Love these paintings and in the great tradition of Frank Frazetta....
Thanks alot! I`ve heard a few people say that about some of my paintings, its a great compliment to hear cause he is one of my favorite artists. first time I heard it I didnt know who he was and checked his artwork on google and realized I had seen many of his paintings when I was younger, and actually tried to draw a few of them as a kid.


Welcome Sigbjorn:
These are amazing paintings. You have a new fan in me. Hope at somepoint you can share some of your techniques with us. I certainly will pay attention to what you have to say. Good job!!!

Thanks! Yeah, if I could do that I would try to, but I dont know how to do it at the moment. Got any ideas? im new to sharing techniques/tutorials.
I could try to explain it in writing for now if it would help?

joelmpr
01-01-2014, 09:19 AM
Thanks alot! I`ve heard a few people say that about some of my paintings, its a great compliment to hear cause he is one of my favorite artists. first time I heard it I didnt know who he was and checked his artwork on google and realized I had seen many of his paintings when I was younger, and actually tried to draw a few of them as a kid.



Thanks! Yeah, if I could do that I would try to, but I dont know how to do it at the moment. Got any ideas? im new to sharing techniques/tutorials.
I could try to explain it in writing for now if it would help?

Well, I don't really know how to do tutorials, since my skills are not very good, I don't do those. But perhaps at some moment...can you explain your general workflow when you do these paintings? (Sketching, blocking colors, shading, etc). That would be great! Text only would be fine with me..jeje

Sigbjornpederssen
01-04-2014, 12:19 AM
sorry for the late reply my laptop comuputer screen have suddenly stopped working all i can see is vertical lines all over the screen ive connected the laptop to the tv now.

I will do my best. I will use my last painting, the one I called "Wights" to I explain my work process on that painting. Its not allways this way I do things, but often something similiar to this.


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1. I start with a new layer, using pencil and sketching up, and try envision the main things how I want it, and lighting and stuff like that. reason I use new layer is I can move things around easier this way, and also add the layer on top for reference when I start to paint. (the wight infront, and some very rough background details the rest is of the wights is not important for now) its bad weather so its no strong light source here.
the detail of my sketches vary very much depending on what I paint, this case I just sketched up the shape of a man holding a sword, and basic details not much armor details those came later when I started painting.

2. adding new paint layer below the sketch layer, and make the sketch layer transparent so all the lines is still visible as I paint, but not disturbing. painting the whole surface now very roughly with oil brush just to get out the colours and shapes. I use a pretty thick layer of paint so its kinda wet if you know what I mean. I usually start with very grey-ish colors. (sometimes I use colours, sometimes black and white and adding colours later) no details yet, I just use 1 color for the wight, 1 slightly lighter variation of the color for background, and again same with sky all of these colours are usually pretty greyish so its easy to darken or lighten them.

3. Starting working with lighting to set the mood, and some detail. where I start varies, this time I started with the background, the sky part. I use paint tube and palette knife now. adding lighter and darker paint where its needed with paint tube, and spreading it out with a flat palette knife. now I start doing the same with the rest of the background, paint tube and palette knife, except where the ground meets the sky that area I usually paint to have a harder edge. that area I painted a mountain and some trees, not much details just enough to see what it is.
Then I started painting the wight, kind of a very rough edition of the finished work, painting rough armor and face details, and then hide or delete sketch layer.

4. from this point, all the rough details are there, now I just improve everything. Just a notice, I havent added any snow, ice, or anything like that yet that comes later.
Now the detailing begin, where I start using smaller brushes and paint things how I want them, give surfaces the right look for leather, fur, armor etc. paiting all face details, painting the hair, pretty much all the details on the wight and background.

5. Now I start adding ice, and frost effects on the wight. first, I usually duplicate the layer below, and use a very light white-blue oil brush to add that icy-frozen look on his cloth and armor. at this point it looks way too much, it doesnt look right yet, but when I change the layer transparency, or some of the blending effects it will look just right.
Then merge layer, and repeat if its needed.
Starting with the icetaps and snow on the wight now. this time I just paint it on there until it looks right.

6. now the main wight of the painting is done, and I just paint some others around him. I didnt spend much time on painting and detailing these, cause they arent that important all this done on the same layer as the rest of the painting. (I mostly use just 1 layer when I paint, but for effects I use new ones or duplicate, then merge when its done)

7. adding the snowy weather, start with a new layer. this does not look right, until its done so gotta be patient with this one, It took several steps to make it.
I used oil brush for this, a light color with alittle bit blue in it. adding dots everywhere with different shapes and sizes. I duplicate this layer cause I use it for two different things.

First layer I will use palette knife. I dont remember the settings its custom made, but it spreads the dots around the area alot. then I fade the layer until its almost unvisible. Then I duplicate this layer, resize it and relocate it alittle, so its not in the same place and merge it down. repeat if needed to add more bad-weather look, it should almost have the look of a fog right now. use eraser tool to remove or thin out this effect in front of the wight.

Second layer I had from the oil brush dots, I will make the flying snow flakes. I use palette knife for this aswell, but here I use the "soft" button on palette knife settings to achieve that blur effect I want to make it look like the snow is in motion. Im bluring the dots in different directions and shapes cause snow often do that they fly around.
Then I just make it slightly transparent, just alittle bit. I duplicate this layer aswell, for an easy way to add more snow flakes if needed, and erase them from areas I dont want them. I duplicate again, and resize it to maybe 50% size, putting this one below the other snow layer, and much more transparency. I do this, to add depth to the snow so the flakes further away is smaller, and less visible.

And thats it, the whole process of this painting. This became a very long post but I hope it helped you out. Im sure its better ways to do many of the things, but this is the way I did it.
if something is unclear let me know, english isnt my main language so can be alittle hard to describe things.

fmc
01-04-2014, 08:19 PM
Thank you for taking the trouble of explaining how you make your paintings. I found it very interesting. Great paintings you have a lot of talent.

stevemawmv
01-04-2014, 08:47 PM
Hi Sigbjorn,
Thanks for taking the time for writing this very helpful tutorial..
Great work!
Take Care,
Steve

Sigbjornpederssen
01-05-2014, 03:23 AM
No problem, if it helped anyone thats great. I wrote that up cause joelmpr was asking for a writeup, if anyone else wondering about stuff feel free to ask im glad to help.

Caesar
01-05-2014, 07:32 AM
Welcome! Your works are exceptionally goodl!

D Akey
01-06-2014, 09:54 AM
WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT painting/character/situation you brought to life!!!

And thanks for the words too. Something else for the artists beyond the pic. :):):):):):cool:

HarlequiNQB
01-09-2014, 06:23 PM
Oh, I really really love these!

Thank you so much for sharing, and the writeup of your technique.

NickBussy
01-09-2014, 09:23 PM
Awesome pieces of work! Nice consistent style.