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coops
05-28-2014, 12:00 AM
Another amazing painting, well done:)

SCP
05-29-2014, 02:40 PM
Wonderful painting and a great look AndreaMG .:cool::cool:;)

AndreaMG
05-31-2014, 01:56 AM
Another couple of marvellous, shining portraits. I waited some time before makinh any commet to let You elaborate the mourning for Toro's bad luck at the very last minute ...:( Ciau né? Mi dispiace, ma al prossimo anno farete cose ancora migliori.
Dear Cesare, my Juventin Roman friend, the mourning is finally over, sorry for Parma but as we say here in Italy "le regole 'so regole e sanno 'da rispettŕ" :cool: Cerea

Thank you Dear Katie for you kind words!

Thank you so much Dear SCP :cool::cool::cool:

AndreaMG
06-03-2014, 06:15 AM
Back to the Masters :p

My take on "Remembering Home" by Michelle Dunaway (Ref. http://www.dunawayfineart.com/paintingpgs/art-Remembering%20Home.htm)

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Here's a Close-Up

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stevemawmv
06-03-2014, 06:50 AM
I like your take on "Remembering Home", it's a treat for the eyes...simply beautiful my friend!
I can see why the attraction to this painting, to me there's a ever so slight resemblance of Avril
within both paintings....But, that's just me.
Beautifully done!
Take care friend,
Steve

AndreaMG
06-03-2014, 07:16 AM
Thank you so much Dear Steve, haha you're right the resemblance is definitely there X)

gxhpainter2
06-03-2014, 07:25 AM
Andrea, I like the soft swirling background and evident canvas dry brush textures I think the colors and contrasts of light and dark are very effective in this one... this is my favorite of yours so far. love the creative use of color in the face...:):):cool::cool::cool:

copespeak
06-03-2014, 09:18 AM
Such a beautifully painted face, and I love the colours. Lovely!

justjean
06-03-2014, 11:29 AM
Beautiful face and great colours and texture

D Akey
06-03-2014, 12:08 PM
I think because you have the hair pulled back and the open upper chest and the pose, this reminds me of some Pre-Raphaelite style paintings in a way - even though her bare upper chest and hair style is a little flatter than in those days for fancy, fantasy ladies who reflected the styles of the moment they were being painted. Very romantic none the less, however you look at it. I doubt you were trying to get exactly that anyway, and were going for something more fresh for you, stylistically speaking.

The color and lighting makes me think of river water. There's a feeling for me of being swept away in the eddies and currents that follow and conform to her energy and moods. The long strokes have that kind of flowing, curvaceous, feminine vibe for me -- almost musical in effect of creating flowing directions. And of course one of the first things that is usually very apparent with women is the hair, so it's got a quality of the woman's hair, following it with your eyes as it surrounds her, embraces her and sets up a journey to circumnavigate.

As to the degree of finish, it's a matter of the effect you want, and how 'finished' or how spontaneous you want it to appear. This one is overall a really cool effect, but the color is a little like a green river, as I said, so it's dimmer and elemental feeling. And I think the larger strokes are perfect. The smaller ones, as around the nose are not particularly detailed in description of those shapes. So it seems like your interests were other than with a finished work. It feels slightly (because I've watched your process over time) that you were going for an overall effect, and once you nailed that look overall, then you would go in with finesse to create a more polished look in later works, or not, depending on how you regard the direction.

The cross is hugely prominent as well. You seem to have given it almost more eye-catching quality than parts of the face. I don't know why you would do that deliberately -- with the cross in the apex of the well lit V shape. If this were an illustration for a vampire book or a story of a dryad of the river or drowned lady who comes back -- where it would be very purposeful thematically in genre fiction perhaps. Other than that it gives her a sort of mixed message - that of a saint yet someone very physical as well. And for sure there are lots of women in the world who fit into that conflicted category for us poor lads who see them and have a reaction to what we see. Or even it's like looking at a river and fancying that you're seeing in it your true love. . . very romantic indeed.

Caesar
06-04-2014, 02:28 AM
SuperAndrea!!!! You must have eaten Goofy's garden special peanuts! (I don't now if abroad Super Goofy character, actually invented in Italy as SueprPippo, exists too though). Exceellleeeent!

AndreaMG
06-04-2014, 08:43 AM
Thank you Dear Gary, I tried to use the source for inspiration and played with it. Cheers

Thank you Dear Robyn, much appreciated :cool::cool::cool:

Thank you Dear D, haha you're right about the cross, I used way too much white and it's definitely grabbing the attention now, but I guess I will leave it as it is because I like your vision of the vampire girl getting out of the waters :o:o:o Thank you again for your comments, she sure looks a bit Pre-Raphaelite and it's different also from the original because I was not able to replicate the staring at the sky which would have added a mystical touch to it, but vampire girl it is :cool::cool::cool: You actually made me remember of the crazy/beautiful J-splatter "Vampire girl vs. Frankenstein girl", gotta re-watch it X)

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Thank you Dear Cesare for the superpippo compliment! :cool::cool::cool: Cerea e Forza Super TORO!

pat1940
06-04-2014, 10:11 AM
What an eye catcher Andrea, beautiful work and so well done

silvy
06-05-2014, 06:28 AM
Great your "Remembering Home" :):)

AndreaMG
06-05-2014, 08:26 AM
Thank you so much Dear Ladies :)

Caesar
06-06-2014, 02:53 AM
Who are these two blood-thirsty girls, dear Andrea? Disquieting personalities for two intriguing beauties .... Risky to show weak points with them, I guess ...LOL:o;)

AndreaMG
06-06-2014, 08:16 AM
Haha they are from a funny japanese movie where blood flows like a river but absolutely not in any serious way, here's a sample just to give you the idea :p. Cerea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz5PVk7nxPc

stevemawmv
06-06-2014, 09:14 AM
Interesting where our imaginations can be taken....from similarities, vampires, special peanuts and back to simply
a very beautiful painting of a young girl. Cheers to all of our friends here and their limitless imaginations......
Take care all....
And again Andrea, beautiful
interpretation of Michelle's painting.
Maybe leaning towards yours though!
Steve

D Akey
06-06-2014, 09:23 AM
Ho boy! What a campy movie! Looks like it was hilarious for the film makers.

We've created a society wherein each generation keeps getting farther and farther from real experiences and lives through on-screen fantasies that keep recycling and changing. How many new movies have we seen where all the situations are rehashes of former movie fantasies? That's why movies based on comic books are some of the biggest movies out there at the box office.

Don't get me wrong, I found that movie very funny!. . .and demented, which really pushes it out into great exaggeration like a caricature.

But wow. Pretty wild. The best part of it was the goofy guy with the camera who just couldn't resist being turned into a second fountain of blood just because he was totally pulled in by the hot chick really enjoying her sumptuous dinner. Total fascination with sensation and absolutely no common sense. And he didn't care at all because he had bragging rights. Sounds like any old day at the college dorm room to me.

Very funny, Andrea. I loved it and where the heck was Lady Frankenstein? And do they get into pulling hair and fighting in the mud? What happens next? - - WHAT HAPPENS???? I HAVE TO KNOW!!!!!!!

Well, there is a strange sense to it all. I mean if we're going to have monsters plaguing our dreams, if they have super hot figures and wear little sailor moon outfits, hey, that works. . .

SCP
06-06-2014, 10:56 AM
Fantasic work on your " Remembering home" :cool: Hahaha yes I have seen some of that movie,I couldn't finish it...:o:p

AndreaMG
06-07-2014, 09:01 AM
Thank you so much again Dear Steve my friend :cool:

Thank you so much Dear SCP :cool::cool::cool:

Haha, Dear D, the movie is funny and the story is very limited, basically there's a new chick in town (Vampire girl) who is actually well... a vampire :D who falls in love with a boy who is already taken (by the girl who will later on become Frankenstein Girl). Vampire girl turns this boy into a creature of the night, his girlfriend goes berserk and dies in the attempt of killing her rival. The father of the poor girl, a mad scientist, brings her back from the undead and so the supernatural fight between the two begins! In the final battle, at the Tokyo Tower :cool:, Frankenstein Girl will succumb and the poor guy will be turned into a slave with the purpose of serving Vampire girl's thirst :cool:
If you want to watch something from Japan truly deep and powerful and out of every scheme I recommend the movies from Sion Sono, well known for the unsettling Suicide Club (children don't watch it), but who also directed Love Exposure, a (4 hours!!!!!!) movie which is in my opinion a real masterpiece, a love story to the extremes :cool:

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pai
06-07-2014, 08:35 PM
Oh, I love your last painting of Michelle Dunaway and the color palette a lot. Beautiful work :)

AndreaMG
06-08-2014, 05:34 AM
Thank you so much Dear Pai :cool:

Sorry guys I couldn't resist, after all the Vampire talking I tweaked her a little bit to add a ghostly touch (watch 'em in HI-RES at your own risk :o)

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Close-up X)

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AndreaMG
06-09-2014, 06:11 AM
Enough with the Vampires :p Now it's time for Valhalla's Valkyries :cool:

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Close-Up:

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stevemawmv
06-09-2014, 07:13 AM
Dear Andrea,
I'am sure Odin would be quite pleased with this Valkyrie, and when it comes time for her chosing, I guess
it doesn't matter....the field or the Hall, might be fun to party down with Odin....but hanging out
with Freyja sounds like fun as well. But all in all...is it a win win situation either way?
Nicely done friend.....love the side profile choice!
Take care,
Steve

Caesar
06-09-2014, 10:27 PM
Again some delicious fresh food in Your shop, as usual, dear Andrea! I also appreciate You activity as a film critic on movies I don't even know to exist and Your knowledge of modern Japanese culture, a place where many of the most weird, peculiar and extreme fads and movements exist since some time. It looks like though that at least one lovely japanese girl didn't appreciate Your peeking, but fortunately she doesn't know the umbrella gesture, so the vaffa is of a sensibly smaller size ... LOL:o:D;) Seriously You paint as master and I would publicly thank Your muses (You never stumble in an old cozza though and it helps). :mad::D;):p

kenmo
06-10-2014, 02:44 AM
Loving the styles of these paintings....

gxhpainter2
06-10-2014, 07:16 AM
AndreaMG....Impressive!... love the transparency of this that show the brush hairs and canvas texture, and knife work...you are really gaining a style here and mastering its evolution from the first rough , tentative brush work early on to this mastery... very well done !!.. exciting to see. I really like that black mark it really sets off the other brush work and the composition is much stronger for it IMHO...:cool::cool::cool::cool:

D Akey
06-10-2014, 07:19 AM
I'm totally nuts about this last one too - the profile. GREAT integration of strokes and color bits woven in like hair extensions or something. She looks beautiful and dazzling and all that you were probably aiming for. The stuff you do seems to heighten the impression given by the sight of a naturally alluring girl. It's makes them really stand out. Great color selection and very clever use of the AR tools, especially noteworthy is the palette knife (I think). How it sharply cuts in with color, which gives me a double impression where on one hand it's additive like make up or something, and on the other hand it's like we're scratching the surface thus revealing inner layers of colors. And to me that implies psychological dimension. And I strongly think your selection of the kinds of marks and their placement is really satisfying.

Also loving the continuance of your delightful Gothic vampire girl, hahaha. Very fun.

AndreaMG
06-10-2014, 08:45 AM
Thank you Dear Steve!!!! While painting I remembered that beautiful rpg (Valkyrie Profile) which was basically a story about a warrior-maiden Valkyrie (Lenneth) sent to Midgar (the world of humans) by Odin to recruit the souls of fallen warriors in order to save both Valhalla and Midgar from Ragnarok, the end of the world. It's the best game ever (together with FF VII). Joining the Valkyries and Freyja in the battles above the clouds? Count me in!! But not today I don't think I'm ready for that yet, maybe tomorrow? :o
Here's a link of the SPECTACULAR soundtrack of the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOxtw0a8Fio

Thank you Dear Caesar, I do love Japanese culture X) I do not remember why the girl made that obscene hand gesture, maybe she received a phone call by some Italian Revenue Agency official? :D:D:D Cerea

Thank you Dear Kenmo for you kind words :o

Thank you Dear Gary, you're very kind and you're perfectly right, that black mark (which symbolizes the feathers in the Valkyrie helm) makes a statement and changes the key of the whole painting. I also noticed that the white area outside her profile looks like a warrior, how cool is that since she is a Valkyrie? :cool::cool::cool:

Thank you Dear D!!!!!!!!!!! Glad you liked the Vampire tweak too :cool::cool::cool:

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"The Ride of the Valkyries" by John Charles Dollman

justjean
06-10-2014, 06:46 PM
A lovely lady, Andrea

D Akey
06-11-2014, 05:24 AM
Aha! I didn't get the references to video games and all that, nor did I go quite that literal with reference to the helmet with that black swath. In this new found context it takes on a whole new meaning. I had only ever thought of Valkyries in the form of an operatic singer I once saw in a clip from an old movie -- a woman, middle aged and rather overweight, dressed up in stage armor and shield and the helmet and she was pointing her spear downward in some dramatic "I'll kick your ass" moment when she would hit the high notes, in a boiler room maneuver that threatened to blow off her breastplate. :eek::eek::eek::eek: :rolleyes: And I had found it quite perplexing as to what they must have been thinking to believe anyone would look at this little film clip and think to themselves excitedly, "Oooh, Lovely. We've got to see the whole of this performance, Mildred! Let's get tickets and make a night of it!!!" :p I'm afraid I very much prefer The Lord of the Rings over the Ring Trilogy. And the game, I while I would love to play it, I don't have the game console. :o

So you'll perhaps forgive me that I missed the references. But they're good ones. And yes, it's clever in the context of your immortal goddess series. :cool: :):):):):)

SCP
06-11-2014, 06:52 AM
Fantastic paintings AndreaMG like the Vamp angle and also the Valkyrie influence !:cool::cool:;)

eighty+
06-11-2014, 08:12 AM
Hi Andy To cheer my self up and being your painting's allways drive me up the wall :D I've had a go at your Gal the one in profile ok E+ a Fan of your's STATTE BBUONO Si....Si

AndreaMG
06-11-2014, 08:44 AM
Thank you Dear Jean. much appreciated :cool::cool::cool:

Haha thank you Dear D, what a funny story, but to my knowledge Valkyries are deadly serious, they mean business, so maybe in that respect it was true to the mythology, as far as the Lord of the rings I'm totally with you even though the books are so much greater than the movie adaptation ^^

Thank you Dear SCP!! I used a trick that I saw in your last video (the horizontal flip) which I was aware of but it didn't come to my mind for some reason :o, my brain is easily "drugged" by the painting that after some time even a three leg woman might look right :):):)

Thank you Dear E+, your paintings inspire and cheers me up as well! KIA ORA and STATTE BBUONO :cool:

SCP
06-11-2014, 08:44 PM
Thank you Dear SCP!! I used a trick that I saw in your last video (the horizontal flip) which I was aware of but it didn't come to my mind for some reason :o, my brain is easily "drugged" by the painting that after some time even a three leg woman might look right :):):)



Hahaha Nice ! Glad I was some help :o The " Flip" is power lol ;)

AndreaMG
06-16-2014, 02:56 AM
Don't be shy... ♪ ♫ Come and meet me after 9 o'clock ;)

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eighty+
06-16-2014, 04:13 AM
so Thats where Everybody's Gone I did wonder why it was so Quiet Andy ;) ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D STATTE BBUONO Si..Si

stevemawmv
06-16-2014, 06:00 AM
Hi Andrea....
Quiet indeed .....Is this one offering me a ride to where everyone has gone this weekend?
Take care friend,
Steve

AndreaMG
06-16-2014, 08:29 AM
Thank you guys :cool:

coops
06-16-2014, 10:37 PM
Now that really is a way to take a journey, nicely done:)

Caesar
06-17-2014, 12:42 AM
I think the sitting part of the lady is perfect for dancing a samba, so she's probably heading to Brazil for the World Championship ... Forza Azzurri, obiettivo Pentacampioni!

kenmo
06-17-2014, 01:01 AM
Love the atmosphere and mood created by the out of focus and choice of color tones... Excellent....:cool::cool::cool:

AndreaMG
06-17-2014, 08:44 AM
It sure is :o Thank you Dear Katie

Haha Thank you Dear Caesar, she might be Italian for sure, FORZA AZZURRI :cool:

Thank you Dear Kenmo, you're totally right, engulfed in mist she is even more attractive, however you're invited to visit her in the after 9 o'clock section too, where the mists have cleared :o

D Akey
06-18-2014, 07:58 AM
Now that's what I call stripping away her mortality! Awesome. I'm rushing to After Nine to get a better look. I think she put her broom into reverse and is slowly backing out. Hard to see in this fog.

AndreaMG
06-18-2014, 08:03 AM
Haha thank you Dear D ^^

justjean
06-18-2014, 08:20 AM
Great painting Andrea altho looks like a most uncomfortable ride :)

AndreaMG
06-18-2014, 08:28 AM
Haha thank you, I think it might require some skills ^^

Caesar
06-18-2014, 07:54 PM
Well I've got another guest flying to the Sabbath (should I undress her too? Actually the broom looks already horny so I better leave her so) and also third one rejecting the invitation by an unpleasant sulphurous escort ...:oLOL;)

AndreaMG
06-20-2014, 08:00 AM
Haha your paintings are superb Dear Caesar :o now my witch won't be lonely anymore :p Love the stilettos too :o Ciau ne

D Akey
06-20-2014, 01:04 PM
Hahahah. Yes, Caesar. There's an old classic Blues song called "Dust My Broom". And while I'm not sure what all those lyrics were about, I would think you're not too far off. You even put in the Devil at the Crossroads, and all that rich legend stuff.

Dust My Broom

I'm a get up in the mornin'
I believe I'll dust my broom
I'm a get up in the mornin'
I believe I'll dust my broom
I quit the best girl I'm lovin'
Now my friends can get in my room

I'm gonna write a letter, telephone every town I know
I'm gonna write a letter, telephone every town I know
If I don't find her in ? (Matilda or West Hills, Lord) ?
She be in East Monroe I know

And I don't want no woman
Want every downtown man she meets
No I don't want no woman
Want every downtown man she meets
Man, she's a no good doney
They shouldn't allow her on the street, yeah

I believe, I believe my time ain't long
I believe, I believe my time ain't long
I ain't gonna leave my baby
And break up my happy home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIGxeQKQs-0

Caesar
06-20-2014, 09:18 PM
Dear Andrea, I would like to complete/ finish or make a real, nice painting of the first illustration one day, but I hardly believe the artistic side of it would ever prevail ...LOL:o As for the second one, I think that the poor old devil trying to invite the witch is far too old fashion looking (too masculine, no baby face, no tattooes, clumsy with smarphones, not extremely trasgressive and without the proper pills fior the rave). So no hope too attract her.
Thank You!

Thank You, dear D Akey! I'm certainly far from Goya's nightmares here, but I don't use lead based paints and to put brush tip hair in my mouth, as he unfortunately used to do. Thank you also forthe fine song (and text, because my ears too aren't perfect anymore). It's hard to get into the singer's mind here, because even probably understanding what happened to him, he's still in the undeciding and schizophrenic state up to the "happy" end.

AndreaMG
06-29-2014, 08:07 AM
Quick painting using the "stiff style" :o

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stevemawmv
06-29-2014, 08:39 AM
There's a touch of elegance being successfully projected in the minimal amount of brush strokes you've applied to this study, feelings and emotions
have been captured beautifully within the limited boundaries you set upon this painting.
Nicely done my friend, now get back to setting up your PC.......
Steve

eighty+
06-29-2014, 01:07 PM
Hi Andy good to see your still firing on all cylinder's as you've been a bit quiet thought maybe you've had a bust up with

Avril?? , :confused: but what is the Stiff Style ?? STATTE BBUONO Si.....Si

hcwswdj
06-29-2014, 02:54 PM
Hi Everyone,
I didn't have the guts to go with Waterhouse :p, so instead I went with my second best painter, John William Godward. This is one of his minor works . I'm pretty happy with the results (I like the trance/ecstasy expression), however I don't think I will ever again reproduce another painting, It's just coping, and was not so fun... Anyway here we go (14 hours, no tracing):

Click on the picture to watch it larger ;)
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this paint I very like ,It's so exquisite , look like really oil painting , I much admires your indomitable for long time too.

gxhpainter2
06-30-2014, 06:33 AM
AndreaMG... I am very impressed with this black and white the beautiful way you captured the eyes and facial structure and yet can see brush fibers that define each, but the mouth is very soft so give a very feminine and appealing quality to this most impressive work...:):):cool::cool::cool:

D Akey
06-30-2014, 06:37 AM
Love the BW. Really skillful use of the brush, to the delight of all the brush wielding folk. We can appreciate the skill it takes to do that so effectively. I can see you whipping through the painting like a band leader with baton.

Good value selection as well.

I think there must be great value (speaking of values) in knowing your subject so well that you can virtually snap your fingers and have them materialize fully formed like a Genie from a lamp. Really cool.

Love the skull necklace detail. Hahah. A subtle hint of the genre flavor. Interestingly, all the subliminal advertisers in magazines selling cigarettes and alcohol (it is said) used to slip in, as a "second read", skulls and sexy a goodly amount because there is some part of us that is pulled in by those images. . . I know it's sort of iconic these days of metal and goth paraphernalia and all that, but it's both seduction and at the same time a badge for the vampire club. . . and other dark characters. BWWWWAAAaahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

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And as to the second one revisited, it's really a pleasure to see. But I can appreciate your considering it a little bit of a chore copying someone else's work. But you did it really well none the less.

AndreaMG
06-30-2014, 09:02 AM
Thank you Dear Steve, I'm so flattered, I chose the B&W to make her look even more classier, so glad you find it elegant!! Take care Dear friend

Thank you Dear E+, being a bit busy with other things :p, "stiff" simply means that I mostly used the brush with the stifFness maxed out :cool: STATTE BBUONO

Thank you Dear hcwswdj, "indomitable"?!?... YES I AM :cool: Thanks

Thank you Dear Gary, you're a fine observer, as a matter of fact her edgy eyes are compensated by her lovely lips :o Ciao

Thank you Dear D, haha you're right I know every inch of her face by now, but you know... she's got such a lovely skull :o. Glad you liked her necklace too, it's what really defines her :cool: The Vampire lady gives you her regards and says thank you XD Ciao

Belvrog
06-30-2014, 11:31 AM
Wow, what a fantastic thread. Really like your style. Have to go through it at least once more, but I thought I'd let you know that I enjoyed the ride. Thanks very much for that. Really great work!

SCP
06-30-2014, 10:28 PM
Love your B&W image, works really well !:cool::cool::cool:

Caesar
06-30-2014, 10:32 PM
As minimalist as effective in this last one! this speaks in favour of Your high confidence and mastery with portraits (of nice girls, curiously;)).

AndreaMG
07-02-2014, 08:18 AM
Thank you so much Belvrog for visiting my thread, you're welcome here anytime :cool:

Thank you Dear SCP!!!!!!!!!! She's a MONSTER of beauty, isn't she? ;)

Thank you Dear Caesar, painting beautiful girls certainly helps a lot :cool: Ciau

copespeak
07-02-2014, 10:31 AM
She's crisp and beautiful in Black and White! So good .... :cool:

AndreaMG
07-03-2014, 08:25 AM
Thank you Dear Robyn ;) Hope you will get soon better

AndreaMG
07-07-2014, 07:14 AM
Jennifer Lawrence (The "girl on fire") ^^

Click on image to enlarge!

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gxhpainter2
07-07-2014, 08:03 AM
AndreaMG...wow those eyes!... they burn right into you!... the knive like edges and streaks in her hair and face add your trademark coolness factor as well...:cool::cool:

stevemawmv
07-07-2014, 08:59 AM
The girl with the “Sexiest eyes”.....Beautiful choice my friend, and
exquisitely painted, almost want to touch the screen and feel the impressions
of the paint.....
Simply gorgeous!
Take care,
Steve

AndreaMG
07-07-2014, 09:19 AM
Thank you Dear Gary!!! You're right, she looks like she staring right at us :o Ciao

Haha Thank you Dear Steve :cool:, she looks like a greek goddess, isn't she? Ciao

Caesar
07-07-2014, 08:34 PM
We're on fire too in front of such a nice girl, dear Andrea! I guess that You took a cool shower after painting her so attractive ... :o;)

SCP
07-07-2014, 08:56 PM
Nice painting Andrea,really draws the viewer in.:cool::D

pai
07-08-2014, 07:07 AM
Jennifer Lawrence so beautiful the way you painted her. I only watched her one movie that was very long time ago. That's X-men: First Class. I heard she's a great actor in recent new movies. Well, haha, besides I don't watch TV , I haven't watched movies for so long ! :p:D Feel like I am out of dated now. :D

D Akey
07-08-2014, 07:14 AM
Haunting! Great hair, and head/face. For my tastes, not that my tastes matter since you're so adept, but since the head is so volumetric and detailed, while the surrounding detail is somewhat less differentiated, I don't know if the garment shouldn't have a little more information. I think if it's a focal length kind of effect that it shares the distance with the body which you have sort of clear, so the lack of dimension is a little puzzling and I find myself having to think about it more than that area is worth.

I think the slight dilemma comes from the really blatant sharp & contrasting marks peppering the soft focus marks. That's hard to create a rule of thumb for something that either works or it doesn't (that works sometimes but it's unknown precisely why). But my guess would be that you can hint more at a change of planes in the garment around her sleeve and maybe as it crosses her torso below the breasts. It doesn't have to be strong.

But some more differentiation there would keep it from feeling like you didn't care about that area. And if I, as viewer, get that sense, it cheapens the effect to one of doing the minimum amount of work to satisfy the client or make the sale or whatever criteria one goes by to sell their product -- something emblematic of modern times in general. For me, I want to view things through the eyes of an artist who cares as much or more than me. Otherwise what need is an artist. It all becomes more of an open casting call for goddesses like on a talent show -- like week 2 or 3.

If these girls don't know yet how to inspire an artist, you have to show them how to be goddesses. They need you maybe even more than you need them, at least at the beginning. . .

AndreaMG
07-08-2014, 08:07 AM
Thank you Dear Caesar, how did you know that? :o Ciau ne

Thank you Dear SCP, she must be some sort of siren :D

Thank you Dear Pai, I first saw her on "Hunger Games", which was such a brilliant movie (similar is some aspects to "Battle Royale") and fell in love with her since :cool:

Thank you Dear D, actually I just now compared the reference picture to my painting with that funny morphing effect while transitioning from one to the other and I noticed that the structure of her head is completely different :rolleyes: :mad: next week-end with the help of the transformation tool I will get her right; I sometimes find still difficult to get things work even with pictures side by side, maybe it's because her skull is not as familiar to me as Av's is :rolleyes:... but I refuse to use grids, rulers, etc., I want to use my brain only :p. As for the background I went flat on purpose following the original, maybe adding only a little light on the top right portion of the painting, she seems engulfed in mist, I think in this case it gives a classic look, but maybe you're right, I will add a bit more contrast to see what happens. Thanks for the precious tips my friend. Since you live in California if you do happen to meet one of these fab girls give her my number and you'll be my agent ;):):D:o:cool:. Anyway here's the original:

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eighty+
07-08-2014, 09:05 AM
Hi Andy The way her hair falls make her look as A long necked Bird Modigliani would have liked her ;):D Ciao STATTE BBUONO Si Si

Caesar
07-08-2014, 09:19 PM
Also in the picture she looks like a wild, wet kitty ...:o

coops
07-08-2014, 10:07 PM
Wow what a beauty she is, nice painting too:)

D Akey
07-10-2014, 05:14 AM
Oh, that's a fantastic sweater! She looks like she stepped right out of a glamor or fashion magazine. The photo is that good.

Anyway, I think her garment adds a lot to the photo, both for color and texture and pattern weave. It would add a lot to the painting, just because it's such a cool element. In a fanciful, surrealistic way, from association, it's like she's emerging from a soft, delicious, artistic castle parapet, like a fairy tale princess. But that's my personal associations.

I know it's kind of crossing over the line to use someone else's photo that closely, and it's one of the big challenges for artists who use professional photos, to not have it look like the same shot people have seen in the magazine. So it's hard to say what to do (what I would do were I painting it) in this instance. But hopefully we get well beyond trying to disguise other people's work when we borrow, owing to it often being the only place where we can get reference images of famous people's likenesses. And it's easy to get inspired to want to paint something we see in print. It was often everything I could do to keep from painting something I saw in National Geographic. Most of those paintings were awe inspiring. The down side of that is they were clearly from National Geographic, so I didn't. Broke my heart more than once to let a great image drift down stream.

Anyway, you still are super skillful at painting in general, but painting women in particular. And you are bringing a personal voice to your work. And I certainly look forward to all your paint offerings here. It's great to see them, which for me is like watching a really good chess match or dance or concert. Go man go!!!!!!!

kenmo
07-10-2014, 06:58 AM
Exquisite painting.....:):):):):)

AndreaMG
07-10-2014, 08:37 AM
Haha, you're right Dear Eighty, in this photo her neck looks REALLY long, maybe longer than Audrey's, a perfect subject for Modigliani ;)

Yes she looks gorgeous in this picture Dear Caesar, actually she looks gorgeous in every picture :o

Thank you Dear Katie for the kind comment :cool::cool::cool:

Thank you Dear D, I know the sweater looks so good in this photo, it adds a tender touch :o, but it's VERY difficult to render (given my limited skills) too :p As far as reference photos I surely do respect photographers (paparazzi included :)) and their work, etc, but I also think that the level of art which can be achieved by photography is not comparable by any means with the art of painting, photography is just a frame of reality to me, maybe beautifully catched but nothing more (and nothing less), while paining is abstraction and reinterpratation in various ways and degrees and thus more exiting. That said I wish I could paint them live :o Thank you Dear D for your support, I love reading your comments as well ;)

Thank you Dear Kenmo for the lovely comment ;)

Caesar
07-10-2014, 09:22 PM
I hope she looks gorgeous naturally too, even if I shouldn't mind too much as a married old goat ...eh, eh;) Ciau e Salütme Türin!

AndreaMG
07-10-2014, 09:36 PM
I bet she sure does :o At la salut Omaggi ;)

byroncallas
07-11-2014, 08:08 AM
Good lord. How have I missed this thread? The work here is fantastic and the thread is a rich and rewarding exploration. Wonderful.

AndreaMG
07-11-2014, 08:39 AM
Thank you byroncallas, you're too kind :o, by the way are you somehow related to Maria Callas "la divina"?

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Alexandra
07-12-2014, 01:43 PM
She is such a pretty girl, Andrea. I've enjoyed her movies.
Wonderful oil work!

AndreaMG
07-12-2014, 10:35 PM
Thank you Dear Alexandra, glad you like her too, she's such a nice person and a crazy good actress :o

Belvrog
07-13-2014, 01:41 AM
Great!!! Love how you did the eyes. Wonderful portrait of her

AndreaMG
07-14-2014, 02:46 AM
Thank you Dear Belvrog :o

AndreaMG
07-14-2014, 02:48 AM
JL Princess Mononoke Version :p

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AndreaMG
07-14-2014, 02:51 AM
Teresa Palmer (Take Me Home Tonight) :o

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gxhpainter2
07-14-2014, 03:32 AM
AndreaMG..wow these last couple are brilliant!, I love the use of lots of different hues and exciting brushwork, they give a real sensuousness to the works themselves, and a bold and assured brushmarks a very professional look. stunning images... very well done !!.:cool::cool:

Bertrude
07-14-2014, 04:12 AM
Andrea, this a wonderful collection of portraits. It's taken me a while to work my way through this thread and I've probablt not looked at each as much as I should but your skill in capturing likeness is very impressive. It's something I've always struggled with and shied away from. I like the different styles you've employed and in particular like the picture of Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite and the one of Keisha Castle-Hughes. I don't mean to put the others down either, they're great too, maybe I just like blue :)

I'm rather jealous of your set up too, broken pen or not ;).

stevemawmv
07-14-2014, 04:40 AM
Great job on Teresa, just saw her in 'Warm Bodies' the other night....
Take care,
Steve

SCP
07-14-2014, 10:16 PM
Great Additions Andrea ! Princess Mononoke Version is very cool.:cool::cool:

Caesar
07-15-2014, 02:30 AM
I guess You eventually took her home last night ...:o;) both fantastic. I knew of princess Mononoke from an old Japanese animation videotape my kids used to see.

AndreaMG
07-15-2014, 08:23 AM
Thank you Dear Gary, I was playing with hues for sure :o, while watching the ref even a tiny color reference may be amplified creating very cool effects!

Thank you Bertrude, so glad you liked "Elizabeth" because it's very experimental and I still like it too :cool:

Thank you Dear Steve, my friend, after reading your comment I promptly ordered the blue-ray from Amazon, can't wait it to arrive :o

Thank you Dear SCP, gotta watch it again, what a great movie it is :cool:

Thank you Dear Caesar, of course I took her home and then, then, I woke up :o It's a 1997 movie, and was one the first movie, if memory serves me right, where CGI was used by master Miyazaki Ciau ne

Belvrog
07-15-2014, 11:51 AM
Both are really cool Andrea. I even prefer the monoke version above your earlier portrait of her.
Great colorchoices for both of them, looking at your portrait of Teresa Palmer the colors give it a sort of nightlife atmosphere with cold light coming from illuminated adevertisments.Works really well.

Alexandra
07-17-2014, 06:30 AM
Excellent style, and beautiful as well. Great painting Andrea!

D Akey
07-19-2014, 08:22 AM
All these beautiful ladies. I really like your attack, if 'attack' is the right word. I really enjoy watching you conjuring up these lovely ladies. Each approach connotes a different energetic and a different interpretation. It's very much like you are describing in words. The previous re-work (2 pics above) it is almost as if I can hear you in a fencing academy lunging in with the point of your rapier going "La!". . . recoiling, setting and swirling the end of your stylus and again THRUST! SWIPE!! JAB!!!!! maybe like an artist superhero. . . with the words printed all around him. It's as if you hurry to get the marks down where you see them before they fade.

AndreaMG
07-21-2014, 03:11 AM
Thank you guys :cool:. Haha how did you know that? :D

AndreaMG
07-28-2014, 04:25 AM
Here's Rihanna (I think she would make a very good bond girl) :o

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AndreaMG
07-28-2014, 04:27 AM
And here's Av, so she won't be jealous :o

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D Akey
07-28-2014, 04:45 AM
I thought it was AL. . . AV could be appropriate though as she IS both Audio and Visual (AV often refers to that as a department in many training institutions). But if it were AL and you called her AV, there might be a little jealousy there. . . and she would DEMAND to know who is AV and WHY do her initials roll off your tongue like that, as if you've been saying it a lot. Oh my. . .

Be that as it may. . .

Rianna painting is so perfect in the cleanliness and design of marks. Nothing gets in the way of her likeness. And all of the marks seem perfected.

Avril (?) looks like a super good looking high school girl as you've painted her. She could not be jealous when you paint her so beautifully.

Two goddesses -- or one goddess in two aspects? You be the judge. . .

Fantastic. Gotta love beauty and style. Love the colors in both. I love the oranges as a strong accent in the second.

gxhpainter2
07-28-2014, 05:50 AM
AndreaMG, wow I just was traveling through this thread from the beginning ,and witnessing the incredible evolution of your style and talent. Your first works ( very photographic ) show tremendous skill in draftsmanship and color control, but what I want to applaud is your courage to push and challenge that to the point of your latest works. It is not easy I am sure to "give up" a certain skillful facility and style for which I am sure you got a ton of acknowledgement and approval. But to keep pushing your portraiture work to is current level shows a rare artistic courage to keep moving forward. You can see the first few tentative efforts at expressive color and brush strokes and they have continued to grow and mature and now you are showing a complete confidence and mastery with it... BRAVO !...:):):):):):cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

stevemawmv
07-28-2014, 06:15 AM
Haha, good title for these...I may use it as well! This is the way I picture Rihana, and Av...cute as ever!
Love the paintings and the style...

Caesar
07-28-2014, 09:19 PM
I see Your postar harem is growing, but You manage to make them coexhist friendly and wonderfully, in Your thread at least ... Both portraits are masterful, but Rihanna shows a particular inspiration and the shades and shadows around make her shine in her beauty and look like a just lit cigarette anyone woul be eager to smoke even if it's dangerous for health ....:rolleyes::cool::o;)

Alexandra
07-30-2014, 01:08 AM
Great work, great style, Andrea!

AndreaMG
07-30-2014, 07:37 AM
Thank you Dear D, I like the oranges too :cool: I will try to improve the style used on the second one on next paintings :cool:

Thank you Dear Gary, you're very kind, sometimes I also like to go back and see all my babies, even if my early works look different than the latest ones I still do like them (which is a good thing I guess :p)

Thank you Dear Steve haha the title was good, wasn't it? Fell free to use it as well :o (PS "warm bodies" was very funny, I liked it :cool:)

Thank you Dear Caesar, you're right it looks like she's lightened only by a cigarette :o

Thank you Dear Alexandra, much appreciated :cool:

Belvrog
07-30-2014, 10:49 AM
I epecially like that painting of Rihanna very much. Really cool lighting in there and some nice brushwork!

AndreaMG
08-01-2014, 07:33 AM
Thanks!!!! ^^

SCP
08-02-2014, 10:09 AM
Great work on both paintings Andrea !!:cool::D

AndreaMG
08-04-2014, 05:50 AM
Thanks Dear SCP :cool::cool::cool:

AndreaMG
08-04-2014, 06:00 AM
Lights Bokan :o

♫ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPLRkyGU3cM ♪

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stevemawmv
08-04-2014, 06:19 AM
Haha, nice one Dear Andrea, cute girl but you know I'am stuck in the Sixties when it comes to music.....
Take care friend....
Steve
P.S. Is it just me or is everyone being redirected to this threads first page?
Had to go to your 'View Forum Posts' to reply....

eighty+
08-04-2014, 08:41 PM
yeah like Steve I'm way back with who's been polishing the Sun and Hang out ya washing on the siegfriend Line then later

A slow Boat to China and Green Door :cool: :cool: :cool: Andy your gal were you tired or just deliberate on the detail

:confused::confused::confused: Ciao STATTE BBUONO....Si.................Si

Caesar
08-04-2014, 11:11 PM
Curiously I can only enter Your first page of this thread today. I wonder what happens ....

Caesar
08-04-2014, 11:13 PM
... and curiously it seems to have accepted my reply, but I cannot read it .... We should ask the Rage boys probably.

eighty+
08-05-2014, 02:54 AM
Ow. Caesar. Do you think it's something I may have done :eek::eek::eek:;):D:D:D Ciao

D Akey
08-05-2014, 04:35 AM
Wow, never heard of this particular goddess -- the house goddess of fresco painting and all interior decoration. She's very cute and the video is wonderful. I'm not a huge fan of auto tune. But what an awesome look!

I like how you took her music video and employed the colors she used. I once have a very respected painter I was lucky to have as a teacher tell me to consider white as a color not merely for mixing. I know you wanted to take the idea and use it in your style, but it might be interesting to have her on a white canvas and to select where your colors go, more in keeping with what they did in the music video. It might make it a little more open feeling.

As you did it, in this case, it's fine for one choice of how it could be done. But unless you're doing a series in which all of the pieces have the same aspect ratio, or something like that, you may want to consider opening out some white canvas, then using layers the girl, then try experimenting with the amount of color and various marks with pure colors, such that it is more like a vignette. White as a color can certainly a good thing, but for me, because I was so into color and into the process of orchestrating all the colors, that I somehow got away from that particular color. And you can always crop in if it turns out the space around the model is excessive.

So that's just a thought. Not perhaps for this particular subject, but that video was very visually effective and can be used for the notion of how they used color. And the look of smeared streaks of paint as another alternative to your usual.

This is a nice painting you've done. So keep going with what you've been doing, by all means, when you're after this look. Just thinking aloud of how to expand the vocabulary and like I implied, that lesson from my long ago teacher popped to mind, so I thought I would pass the idea along to you.

AndreaMG
08-05-2014, 07:36 AM
Haha thank you Dear Steve glad you liked it :cool:

Haha thank you Dear Eighty, it's called avant-garde mon amie :p But now that you mentioned it I was a little tired too :o STATTE BBUONO :cool:

Thank you Dear Caesar for checking in, someone must have sabotaged my thread, but you know what thay say, "many enemies, much honour" (just kiddin :p). Now it seems to work again so please come back and leave a comment, come back, come back :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJIQDBWQkZE

Thank you Dear D, I've thought about doing it several times but for whatever reason I never actually did it, but I think it might suits my style very well. Here's some Michelle Dunaway's painting done in that way:

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PS I read you went to Disneyland, I was there many many years ago and the lego thing was not there at the time but I really enjoyed it. Cheers

pat1940
08-05-2014, 07:40 AM
Wonderful work Andrea, she is beautiful

Stephen Lo Piano
08-05-2014, 09:24 AM
Very good painting, like the way you bring forward the highlights in the face with white light, creates the illusion of realism.

Caesar
08-05-2014, 11:00 AM
Your last painting is great, fresh, spontaneous and dynamic as ever, dear Andrea! I like also the style of Dunaway, if that's the name of the painter of the portraits You attached. To return You the gift look at this painter (Escha Vane den Bogert) and see if You like him ... http://www.eschasgallery.com/

SCP
08-05-2014, 08:33 PM
Wonderful job on "Lights Bokan" Great color and brushstrokes.Once again very cool work my friend !:cool::cool:;)

Caesar
08-05-2014, 09:25 PM
No way! I could see it at home yesterday evening, but only the first page here on my office PC ... strange problem indeed ...

D Akey
08-05-2014, 09:48 PM
Fabulous styles, Andrea! A whole lot less 'Pop' style. But they look very professional indeed. And I can now also see that because you have certain methods and chops in the traditional ways, that you are thus looking for something very different by searching for a style more in keeping with the vibrancy of these young female pop stars' videos and performances -- which in a way makes it more in line with the particular star's way. And you certainly succeed at it in both directions new and conservative. Loving it all. Go Andrea GO!!!!

AndreaMG
08-06-2014, 07:38 AM
Thank you Dear Pat, hope you're better :)

Thanks Stephen the closer to real media is the happier I am :cool:

Thank you Cesare. I like it (especially the nudes ones :o), a style not so easy to mimic with Artrage I'm afraid though. I'd say your Boss has applied some restrictions on your office PC :cool: Ciau ne

Thank you Dear SCP!!! :cool::cool::cool:

Thank you Dear D, sometimes I begin a painting saying to myself "this time it will be classic" but then I get carried away :o Glad you like her work too, she's definitely a pro :cool: CIAO

Caesar
08-06-2014, 08:28 AM
It looks like the limitations is limited to Your thread. What did You do to Mauro Moretti then?

AndreaMG
08-10-2014, 03:59 AM
I made this following our Dear Friend D precious suggestions (Thank U :o). That's as much painterly as I can go :o. Hope you like it.

Please do watch it at full size :cool:

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stevemawmv
08-10-2014, 07:51 AM
Hi Andrea....Love this, to me this is 'Traditional Fresh', reminiscent of portraits of forties and fifties.
Take care friend,
Steve

D Akey
08-13-2014, 04:43 AM
Yes. She looks very sweet and the paint looks nice and buttery. The bright colors and lighting lend a quality as if when she walks into a room, the place lights up, faces brighten and joy abounds because the goddess has graced us with her presence. Super painting.

One of the things I find successful is the ratio of purposeful portrait painting to the flashy decorative stylistic marks used as effects. It's as if you've been experimenting with seasonings for a meal and hit on a way in which the seasoning brings out the natural flavor of the meat and vegetables rather than the seasonings drawing so much attention to themselves.

And of course continuing with the food analogy, one seasons to please their palette. Sometimes subtle is good. Other times something strong is called for.

Steve has something there. It does have a bit of a 1940s feel, which I've always been crazy about as a period for illustration. Straight away seeing that style for a beautiful lady, it gives a movie starlet from the days of the big studios -- that glamorous actress ambiance.

screenpainter
08-14-2014, 08:31 PM
your last two Avrils and particularly the last one shows a great evolution of your style. that are wonderful. love the free flowing brushstrokes that you have evolved to with all your practice. I really think you have something remarkable to cash in on with the expressive brushwork and color. love the latest Rhianna portrait also at the top of the page.

copespeak
08-14-2014, 10:26 PM
She is certainly fresh and lovely Andrea! Beautifully confident brushstrokes. :)

SCP
08-15-2014, 10:24 AM
Another wonderful portrait AndreaMG ,well painted !:cool:

AndreaMG
09-03-2014, 07:11 AM
Thank you so much guys for your comments and support!

Hope eveyone is ok. Here below some of the paintings I did while on vacation with my laptop. I used the new 64bit Artrage and the grid function.

Ellen Page

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Jamie Chung

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Lily Collins

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Natalie Portman

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stevemawmv
09-03-2014, 08:04 AM
Dear Andrea.....Beautiful set of summer paintings.....Hoping you enjoyed your time off, these painting kind of tell me you did!
Good to have you back.....Absolutely find the Natalie painting fantastic!!!
Take care friend,
Steve

copespeak
09-03-2014, 09:25 AM
What a collection of beautiful fresh ladies Andrea! I'm not sure which one is my favourite, they all so good. Maybe Natalie Portman ....... :cool:

D Akey
09-04-2014, 04:00 AM
Fantastic!!!!!!

Really wonderful paintings all.

Welcome back. When you disappeared, I was wondering what happened. Caesar also took off. Was hoping it wasn't Mt. Etna or Vesuvius belching fire and smoke as in the days of old that had you guys making a mad dash to the Dolomites or something.

Good to see you back. And very good to see these beautiful pics. Still evolving, but it looks like you have walked away with some really cool tricks from all your experiments while you were here. I think vacationing suits you.

Yeah, that Natalie Portman one is extraordinary. But they're all brilliant.

gxhpainter2
09-04-2014, 05:37 AM
Great to have you back in action here Andrea, love the freshness of this new work, the N Portman is also my favorite ( I love all the texturing and brushwork ) although they are all distinctive and BRILLIANT!..:cool::cool::cool:

nascal
09-04-2014, 05:56 AM
Really love your style, especially the Natalie Portman picture :o, the way you mix colour that is awesome

AndreaMG
09-04-2014, 08:12 AM
Thank you Dear Steve, I've rested a bit, hope the hearthquake in San Francisco didn't cause any damage to your home. Take care + 1 for Nat

Thank you Dear Robyn, hope you're getting better. +2 for Nat

Thank you Dear D, haha, no dangerous stuff in Dolomiti area or around the Vesuvio, I was only in Liguria resting a bit. I think Caesar went to Sardegna to take some inspiration to paint his beautiful half naked ladies :o. I tried something new with these ones, glad you liked them. I've also painted 4 other ones that I will post in the next days. +3 for Nat

Thank you Dear Gary!! Hope you relaxed in the beautiful Oregon. +4 for Nat

Thank you Dear Nascal, I only recently began to play with colors and I must say I like it. +5 for Nat


Ok, I think we have a winner here and it is...................

the Lily Collins painting :cool:, nope that's my favourite out of the four but we are in democracy here at Artrage so Natalie it is :cool:

Thank you all :o

Bertrude
09-04-2014, 08:13 AM
Great pictures Andrea. Chalk up another vote for the Natalie Portman pic - I love the style and colours especially.

AndreaMG
09-04-2014, 08:15 AM
Haha, thank you, I guess it is +6 at this point ;)

Caesar
09-06-2014, 05:09 AM
Ciao Andrea! What a bunch of new marvels from You! You're never on holiday with gorgeous girls I see!;)

AndreaMG
09-07-2014, 06:44 AM
Haha, grazie mille caro Cesare. Welcome back!

AndreaMG
09-07-2014, 06:51 AM
My take on one of Mary Qian's fantastic paintings. In the first stages I used the grid to get the proportions right. She came out looking a bit like Rachel :o Please do watch it at full size ;)

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gxhpainter2
09-07-2014, 09:28 AM
AndreaMG, very interesting choice in colors, like a dark wine and vineyard greens.. the background looks architectural , I like a rough finish to the knife work and the smoothness of her arms and hands, the hands are quite well done, and a beautiful face how can you go wrong? wonderful work again :cool::cool:

copespeak
09-07-2014, 09:44 AM
Such a beautiful face Andrea! I love it. :cool:

stevemawmv
09-07-2014, 10:46 AM
HI Andrea......Ditto to everything Gary wrote....Beautiful work, knife work is incredibly good!
She's a beauty.....Nicely done as always, you take care!
Steve

justjean
09-07-2014, 03:31 PM
Andrea, beautiful paintings

Enug
09-07-2014, 04:37 PM
She's a beauty!

AndreaMG
09-07-2014, 10:34 PM
Thank you so much guys! By copying other people works I hope to be able to improve my own paintings :o. Here below is the original.

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D Akey
09-08-2014, 04:16 AM
I think if I were choosing between these wonderful paintings of the same image, I would choose the latter because the base feels less distracting. Against those shorter tonal dry brush marks, the ground onto which she is sat in the former one it's so active and large that it feels as if from a different mindset, sort of like an afterthought. That kind of mark is cool unto itself or in a painting in which that mark is one of similar variations of it, but it divides the canvas, It's not an issue for me in the second one because you handled the whole painting in a similar way so it seems more masterful.

Anyway, to the huge successes you have going on in these -- I love the girl and how you painted her. It's a really full feel. It feels like you were on purpose with every inch of the canvas. I love the way you broke up the colors, creating a relationship theme, and it's just plain cool to look at unto itself. So when you popped in your color accents on her flesh (head etc), it was done from colors that exist elsewhere in the picture. So it's not so posterized -- a sumptuous vision well realized. Really juicy marks. It feels like a very fast painting executed with great precision.

Bravo! Go Andrea Go!!!!!! :):):):):):cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::):):):):)

AndreaMG
09-08-2014, 04:59 AM
I think if I were choosing between these wonderful paintings of the same image, I would choose the latter because the base feels less distracting. Against those shorter tonal dry brush marks, the ground onto which she is sat in the former one it's so active and large that it feels as if from a different mindset, sort of like an afterthought. That kind of mark is cool unto itself or in a painting in which that mark is one of similar variations of it, but it divides the canvas, It's not an issue for me in the second one because you handled the whole painting in a similar way so it seems more masterful.

Anyway, to the huge successes you have going on in these -- I love the girl and how you painted her. It's a really full feel. It feels like you were on purpose with every inch of the canvas. I love the way you broke up the colors, creating a relationship theme, and it's just plain cool to look at unto itself. So when you popped in your color accents on her flesh (head etc), it was done from colors that exist elsewhere in the picture. So it's not so posterized -- a sumptuous vision well realized. Really juicy marks. It feels like a very fast painting executed with great precision.

Bravo! Go Andrea Go!!!!!! :):):):):):cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::):):):):)

Thank you Dear D, but I think there's a little misunderstanding here :o, the last picture I posted is the actual painting made by the very talented impressionist painter Mary Qian (http://www.maryqian.com/), the first one is my take on it X) on which I took some liberties :cool: Thank you for the compliments! I think you're right, the paintings I like the most feel like done fast but if you look closely they sure are not.

D Akey
09-08-2014, 05:15 AM
Ah. Well again it's a case of me just having woken up and before getting my eyes to focus I didn't read it, just looked at the pics. :p:o My bad. It's just that I get so enthusiastic about seeing your work and you were gone so long I did not read and made assumptions. Note to self: read the posts completely before commenting. . .

As to your version, I had seen it but wanted to see what other people had to say letting them take the honors of being the first to comment.

Anyway, exciting style to master. It looks like it's well within your range to achieve.

AndreaMG
09-08-2014, 05:31 AM
Ha-ha, don't worry Dear D, it happens to me as well :o. The fact that you actually thought I made the second one as well (the actual oil painting) is the greatest compliment to me and to the Artrage program as well :cool: It was an exercise to get better with my own paintings :o Mine I guess is a bit more agressive. Full credit to Mary Qian. Next week another one of hers is coming, you have been warned :cool: Ciao

Caesar
09-08-2014, 10:41 PM
Quite hard to see differences, which are minimal indeed. You have a promising career as a forger ...LOL;):D Your style reminds me of Giacomo Favretto's.

kenmo
09-08-2014, 11:46 PM
Awesome work...

AndreaMG
09-09-2014, 07:48 AM
Thank you Dear Caesar :cool: I took a look at some of Master Favretto's works, impressive stuff. Ciau ne (PS Se vedi Mister Conte in giro per Roma salutamelo ;))

Thank you Dear Kenmo :o

AndreaMG
09-15-2014, 04:27 AM
Here's another one by Mary Qian. Used grid in the first stages. Done this summer and refined a bit today :o

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Close-Up ^^

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stevemawmv
09-15-2014, 06:13 AM
Hi Andrea....More proof it was a wonderful and productive summer for you, don't know how more refined you can get this image, I'am liking it just the way it is....Beautiful work!
Take care,
Steve

gxhpainter2
09-15-2014, 06:58 AM
AndreaMG, what a beautiful realization of form. the interplay of canvas texture and brushwork and palate knife is very refined and a delight to the eye. Especially subtle is the play of lights along the right side of her face with the more dramatic and textural left side. The painting has great depth of character not only as shown in her figure but as revealed by your hand. a wonderful experience for us. :cool::cool::cool::cool::):):)

AndreaMG
09-15-2014, 07:03 AM
Thank you so much Dear Steve and Gary! Two more to go :cool::cool: then I will go back to my own paintings ^^

Leasaurus
09-15-2014, 08:14 AM
Those are absolutely fantastic! Beautifully done. :D

Bertrude
09-15-2014, 09:03 AM
Yep, another set of beautiful paintings. Stunning work :)

eighty+
09-15-2014, 10:23 AM
Hi Andy I coundn't Find you this morning I thought maybe you were still asleep as it was early when I first Woke and looked on The IPad befor I went back to sleep:D:D ok

now your around Yes I like all the last one's but you frighten me the way you splash paint around and Do you use Layer's ??? OK CIAO STATTE BBUONO ...Si.........Si

Caesar
09-16-2014, 01:41 AM
Another masterpiece! You may have a look to Antonio Mancini too, I guess. He was a very appreciated painter too in his times .... I think Jeremy Lipking too may be a useful reference You may took as a reference with Your recent style.

AndreaMG
09-16-2014, 08:09 AM
Thank you Dear Leasaurus for your kind comment :cool:

Thank you Dear Bertrude, the best is yet to come :cool:

Thank you Dear E, on these I think I used a separate layer only for the background, usually I don't use them at all. As far as the "splashing" just select "harsh chaos" and choose with a very high tool size (400%-500% depending on your canvas size), as far as I understood the algorithm works keeping in consideration highly adjacent contrasted areas as well the marks on the paint made by brushes or knives, it works well if the paint underneath is already thick, just try in some areas and look at the effect if you don't like you can always use the undo button and try another area. The effect can be breathtaking and gives the painting a very natural feel and it also integrates very well with the rest. So far I love it. CIAO

Thank you Dear Caesar, I googled Master Antonio Mancini since I already knew Jeremy Lipking, which I love. Very cool paintings :cool: Ciau ne e grazie ancora per i complimenti carissimo :o

Alexandra
09-17-2014, 11:18 AM
Outstanding, Andrea, beautiful work!

Caesar
09-17-2014, 07:20 PM
You're welcome, dear Andrea. Just to add another painter, a contemporary one, ones artpieces are quite intriguing and seem to refer to the whole art history and its masters is John Currin. You probably already know him.

D Akey
09-18-2014, 03:58 AM
Very handy approach to painting. Super subtle, yet complicated color work is really making those chiseled strokes sing in harmony.
Any of those marks could pull the viewer's attention away from the girl, which would clearly defeat the purpose of the portrait. But you managed to hold them all in check where it seems almost orchestral.

You should be very pleased with the results of this one. Bravo, Andrea!

AndreaMG
09-18-2014, 08:10 AM
Thank you Dear Alexandra, so glad to hear from you again :cool:

Thank you Dear Caesar, wow what a painter, while some of his works are "after midnight material" some others are really fairy-tale like as I read somewhere today. Really original stuff. Ciau ne e W LA F... LA MINISTRA BOSCHI :o

Thank you Dear D, I hope I will be able to incorporate the things I learned by making these ones into my own paintings. Cheers

D Akey
09-18-2014, 08:42 AM
You're welcome, dear Andrea. Just to add another painter, a contemporary one, ones artpieces are quite intriguing and seem to refer to the whole art history and its masters is John Currin. You probably already know him.

Wow. . . Caesar, it surprises me a little that you hold him in such high regard seeing as you represent in your work essentially beautiful and sympathetic pictures of women.

Technically he's very expert. No doubt about that. But his vision. . . yeesh. . . I could be very wrong, but for me and only speaking for myself (IMHO etc), these are not exactly the paintings of someone who loves women the way I do. It's more like a dark, clinical lens he's having us look through. Almost like looking at an insect collection where the depictions are curious, apprehended in detail, but almost from a different species that the painter feels no connection to. I see zero romance in his work. No love that I can see. These models are colorless. They're devoid of the kind of lighting that draws you in and sets a mood that there's a soul in there somewhere.

Interesting that you bring him to Andrea's thread because of Andrea's desire to paint goddesses. I can see these creatures that this guy is painting as being cold like Medusa perhaps. In that way they would be within and without the human species at the same time. Haughty like the Olympian crowd that rolled off of Olympus as monsters for heroes to overcome.

Anyway, I'm sure he has a following. Just not my thing. So ignore my rant. I'm admittedly biased toward color and lighting.

copespeak
09-18-2014, 09:33 AM
Close up of this gorgeous painting shows just how much skill you have with your AR painting. Wow!

TomasBj
09-18-2014, 07:13 PM
Beautiful paintings! I love your style. It reminds me of Alla Prima oil paitings with a digital flair!

Caesar
09-18-2014, 07:20 PM
Thank You, dear Andrea! As always was and (hopefully) will be, with the likely approval of M. Courbet, Viva la f.... and la ministra Boschi! Ehehehe;):oLOL

Dear D Akey, I can agree and subscribe on all that You say about Mr. Currin. I wouldn't hang any of his painting, but I probably expressed myself unproperly about him. I tend to like any artist that show, in either a whole or in some features, a unique, original vision and a high level of skill to express it properly, even if I don't like what they paint or I wouldn't emulate their styl or phylosophy. The most indicative example in this sense is Lucien Freud. I find him absolutely great and feel pain for him, in a way, after looking at his paintings.
As for Currin I just noticed he can make credible twisting and distortion of human beings, like somehow cruel caricatures, and although he's rarely keen with the use of colors, usually far from vivid, thus he's mostly opposite to me in terms of vision, I could find many citations of famous art masterpieces (i.e. the Medusa Raft or Flemish paintings style or mannerism references). So I found it interesting the possibility to interpret and adapt ancient styles to a personal vision, to our physical and psychological reinterpretation of the world, a bit like Parmigianino, who, many centuries before Modigliani, elongated Venus neck and limbs lenghts in a famous painting, giving an effect of unaccessible divinity and supernatural elegance.

Now what next as an interesting artist? Serge Birault or a more classical Gianni Strino or Francesca Strino maybe ....

AndreaMG
09-21-2014, 11:07 PM
Interesting that you bring him to Andrea's thread because of Andrea's desire to paint goddesses. I can see these creatures that this guy is painting as being cold like Medusa perhaps. In that way they would be within and without the human species at the same time. Haughty like the Olympian crowd that rolled off of Olympus as monsters for heroes to overcome.

I'm cool with it, I always like to look at other people stuff even if they might be so distant from my taste, I have to admit that I like some of his paintings.

AndreaMG
09-21-2014, 11:14 PM
Thank you Dear Robyn :cool: Did you managed to get the new car at the end? Hope you're getting better. Cheers

Thank you Dear TomasBj, I read somewhere that digital paintings should look like traditional media and that real oils should look like photos, that's of course a bit extreme but I think it really hits a point because while doing digital it's relatively easy to get photorealistic outcomes and vice versa with traditional paintings it's easy to go painterly :cool:

AndreaMG
09-21-2014, 11:21 PM
Ok, here are the last two paintings I did this summer. Used grid function in early stages. All merit and credit goes to Jeremy Mann.

Please watch them at full size! ;)

First one: "The Black Robe"

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Second one: "The Demure"

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Bertrude
09-22-2014, 01:21 AM
Wonderful studies Andrea, so beautiful. I'm not familiar with Jeremy Mann's work but having checked out his website (and I'm so glad I did), I can see you've really captured his images and style amazingly.

gxhpainter2
09-22-2014, 04:14 AM
wow, Andrea you have a talented eye and hand , very impressive work on these last two especially. I am taken by the richness of the textures and subtle color interplay. the roughness of the backgrounds and complex stylizations of the pillow play against the smoothness of the models skin.. brilliant work!

D Akey
09-22-2014, 04:31 AM
Now what next as an interesting artist? Serge Birault or a more classical Gianni Strino or Francesca Strino maybe ....

Of the three I prefer Francesca for my personal aesthetics. You're on a very fun ride, Caesar and you're pulling out some interesting artists.

It will be very interesting to see how the various artists you collect will impact your own work. You look as if you're developing an interest in paintings that take longer to paint. I'm suspecting that you are still wanting to do comparatively fast caricatures, but that you may start taking them farther and are looking at (in this case) three more possible directions. Fun to watch your thinking as it shows up outwardly.

Thanks for the links.

D Akey
09-22-2014, 04:51 AM
Andrea, it was probably wise to do your work privately owing to opinions and comments not helping your focus. I think that's why so many artists wait until they have worked up a whole look before they show, especially because for a time it looks too much like other people's work. And it's not until later that the other style(s) get blended with their own aesthetic sensibilities into a look that is their own.

Seasoned artists already have a pretty vast array of styles that have synthesized into one, so that when they take in to that internal mix yet another existing style, it soon drops a lot of those other artist's signature forms, leaving only bits and pieces which, when combined with all their other internal bags of tricks, it looks different and may not even be connectable to the latest person they're copying.

You don't know how much or how little until you stay at it for some time and the unrelated bits of the imitated style fall away as they evolve and streamline independent of that source.

Anyway, you can attribute to these other artists all you want because that's sort of the etiquette. But I can't wait for you to not feel the need to point to other people. That will come.

Go man go!!!!!

stevemawmv
09-22-2014, 06:26 AM
Ok, here are the last two paintings I did this summer. Used grid function in early stages. All merit and credit goes to Jeremy Mann.
Dear Andrea....Good choice, I've actually seen Jeremy Mann's work upclose at Pence Gallery here in the city...Some favorites of mine are 'The Artist's Studio, Vesper and The Pale of Night' and of course his cityscapes of my 'City By The Bay'....I mirror Bertrude's comment "you've really captured his images and style amazingly"...But with a added touch that can only be from you my friend....
Love your work and enjoy being included in this amazing "Learning from The Masters" study.
Take care friend,
Steve

AndreaMG
09-23-2014, 07:57 AM
Thank you Dear Bertrude, so glad you discovered him :cool:

Thank you Dear D, I'm already working on something new, too bad I caught a nasty flu :mad:

Thank you Dear Gary, I'm preatty pleased myself with the last one, Jerem's style might appear rough but it is also very detailed and quite photorealistic :)

Thank you Dear Steve, cool! I read a very informative article written by him on the magazine "Artists on Art" (https://www.artists-on-art.com/) and I fell in love.

Caesar
09-23-2014, 07:46 PM
You're absolutely D Akey, but I'm possibly too lazy or not skilled enough edantic process to get a better quality and resolution of my outcomes, with the perfect tones, shadows, hues palette and textures as professionals can effectively do .... Thank You!

AndreaMG
09-24-2014, 01:38 AM
Just for fun here below the comparison with the original ones :o

Jeremy's:

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Caesar
09-24-2014, 01:49 AM
Dear Andrea, You're more and more super! It looks like that along with Your outstanding talent You found also quite a few tips&trick to further enhance Your impressive painting capability and skills. Maybe the credtis go to the author, but Your role in these excellent reproductions cannot be dwarfed at all!

copespeak
09-24-2014, 08:53 AM
Truly excellent interpretations Andrea! :cool:

Caesar
09-24-2014, 10:22 PM
... dear Andrea, maybe You like also Ivan Slavinsky, unless he's too much "gorgeously glamour" for You too .... he's a sort of modern Giovanni Boldrini.

D Akey
09-25-2014, 03:21 AM
Spooky close. Really good eye and skills with the brush, the way you matched some of the marks. Makes me think that both of you were using ArtRage. :D:D:D:D:D

Make sure you take at least one of the copy exercises to where you get in all the subtleties as well -- that is assuming you're doing a full copy. He has some interesting details, like the extra few marks describing the form around knees and so forth, just so you've got a handle on it if you need it. It just rounds it out a little bit more.

All the rest is absolutely uncanny it's so perfect 90 percent. You have an amazing facility with this program.

The thing is that when I putter around in AR, I have not the knack for changing the appearance of strokes yet. I don't paint enough for that though I am considering doing more. My work doesn't take me there so I don't have the attention span at this point to bending straight the learning curve which you seem to have done. Awesome stuff. Bet you learned a ton in doing this. The mood and appearance is nailed. Bravo on a fantastic lesson for yourself and actually me too on the level of breaking through my brick walls with use of the brush to get a wide range of marks. :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

I recall we had a fabulously skillful old professional gallery artist here, Brian Tinsley, who for a while who used to do the same thing when his curiosity was piqued. He would do copies like any pro would do, not unlike musicians do when noodling around -- to see where it goes and to have some fun as well. . . like Hendrix copied everybody but sooner or later those songs went way beyond the originals and his imprint had evolved it in a different direction using his signature chops. It's not a bad way to grow and find out who we ourselves are and what our style is. To my eye and what little I know about you, you have all the understanding one needs. And now it seems like you're focusing on the end game like focusing on "The Closing" in salesmanship, or in the end game in Chess -- that portion of it as one is learning how to own that critical portion of the process. It's where a lot of personal razzle-dazzle can happen, especially for someone who uses thick paint.

Isolating any step in the process to work out some stuff is a great idea to really know how to do stuff.

Chappeau, Andrea!

AndreaMG
09-25-2014, 09:01 AM
Thank you Dear Caesar :cool:. I've checked Ivan Slavinsky's paintings, he sure likes feathers, garments and what else, beautiful women :cool: Man please don't tempt me, lately I feel the urge to copy other people stuff :p However really cool painter. Ciau ne e forza Ro.., I mean Juve! (and Toro of course)

Thank you Dear Robyn, my friend

Thank you Dear D for spending time to check out the differences! At the risk of sounding cocky I think that my white dress is better than his and I think that while his girl may look more realistic mine is a bit more graphic. Yeah I learned a lot by doing these. I read somewhere that he uses some sort of "acids" to achieve those beautiful effects in the backgrounds, Artrage I think is much more safer from this point of view :o It's funny because when I think I've obtained everything possible out of the program I discover new ways to push it closer to the real thing. I love Artrage because it's all about painting, no more no less. As far as the marks they look very organic and very well integrated with the rest, so glad I discovered this trick :) I'm sure you're more than just good my friend. Soon I will do something not digital, maybe only with a pencil just to prove myself that I can still do it without the help of a program and later on I will try to make my own compositions combining at first real elements. Ciao e grazie ancora!

Caesar
09-25-2014, 07:41 PM
I'm glad Toro eventually zeroed in the goal and finally put twice the ball inside the poles and bar space! As for us, the Juve, up to now we may go on even without some top players and the outcome is the same. I'm relieved we don't take goals, which is the first rule with soccer as with basket, whatever else they may say ....
As for a teasing painter far less affected than Slavinsky, You may have a look to Serge Marshennikov who may fit pretty well Your muse ;) (I also liked in my search Barry Ross Smith, mainly because the sea and beach season is over, though:().
Some day You will have to write a booklet for dummies and experts as well on how to use Artrage to its full potential, with all the tips and tricks You evidently discovered and implemented! I'm sure people would be ready to pay for the download!:cool:

Alexandra
09-26-2014, 02:52 AM
How beautiful Andrea. Outstanding work!!!

AndreaMG
09-26-2014, 08:29 AM
You may have a look to Serge Marshennikov who may fit pretty well Your muse ;) (I also liked in my search Barry Ross Smith, mainly because the sea and beach season is over, though:().
Some day You will have to write a booklet for dummies and experts as well on how to use Artrage to its full potential, with all the tips and tricks You evidently discovered and implemented! I'm sure people would be ready to pay for the download!:cool:
Thank you for sharing, like them both, this weekend I will watch their painting closely fro some inspiration, right now I can say that painting sheets it's really not a problem for Serge Marshennikov :o:o
Don't ask me about that Dear Caesar, those secrets that I learned with thousands of practice in front of my monitors will die with me, muuuahahahahah :o Ciau ne

AndreaMG
09-26-2014, 08:32 AM
How beautiful Andrea. Outstanding work!!!

Thank you Alexandra :cool::cool::cool:

AndreaMG
09-28-2014, 06:07 AM
Tired to doodle the beautiful Melissa Fumero with what I had at home, took a picture with the ipad, imported in Artrage, tweaked and now she looks like Avril :o

Original pic:
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B&W edit:
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Doodle:o:
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Artrage:
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eighty+
09-28-2014, 07:24 AM
Hi Andy I 'm :confused: or intrigued ? as to why you sketch them out on paper First baffled and bewilederd ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D And your new girl is

a Real cool beauty I'm waiting to see your painting of her :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool: STATTE BBUONO...Si.........Si

copespeak
09-28-2014, 11:41 AM
Interesting seeing your different versions Andrea. Looking good.... :cool:

Caesar
09-29-2014, 09:36 PM
You did it! You started to draw and paint on real media too! Chapeau! Your capability and style works just the same.

AndreaMG
10-06-2014, 02:00 AM
Hi Andy I 'm :confused: or intrigued ? as to why you sketch them out on paper First baffled and bewilederd ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D And your new girl is

a Real cool beauty I'm waiting to see your painting of her :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool: STATTE BBUONO...Si.........Si

Haha, thank you it was just an experiment, I used Artrage to modify and tweak it. Adiós


Interesting seeing your different versions Andrea. Looking good.... :cool:

Thank you ^^


You did it! You started to draw and paint on real media too! Chapeau! Your capability and style works just the same.


Thank you ^^ Since I don't have the patience and skills required by oils in next months I'll give pastels a try. Here below some artists that I found very inspiring. Please if someone of you do know artists good with this media with an expressionist style please share :)

Harley Brown:

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AndreaMG
10-06-2014, 02:02 AM
Harley Brown (continue :p):

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Mathis Miles Williams:

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AndreaMG
10-06-2014, 02:04 AM
Mathis Miles Williams:

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AndreaMG
10-06-2014, 02:07 AM
Vincent Romero:

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AndreaMG
10-06-2014, 02:09 AM
Vincent Romero:

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D Akey
10-06-2014, 05:34 AM
All wonderful. I got a little confused about which style you're looking to do. There's a bit of a range here. . . all of which are quite pleasing, I must say. As to an artist doing portraits of kids, I think SadClown or Sad Clown here on ArtRage specializes sometimes in children's portraits close to the first samples you posted. I think she has more to look at on Deviant Art. I went there a long while back and there was a rather fine collection of work.

Granted, many of these folks used oils, and various mediums, but the point is the final effect. Pastel just builds it up differently as far as I can tell -- because the pastels are hard and not so likely to be mixed on a palette (except if you turn it to powder and spread it with a cotton ball etc), you do it with broken color, meaning side by side colors that mix to the eye as you step back. But with digital, you have infinite colors to choose from, so that broken color look is merely a choice if you want that look for verisimilitude.

The overall look of the artist and the times got transferred from one medium to the other. It's not so much a technique thing. Pastel is sort of a no-brainer if you can already paint. And if you're doing it digitally, it's really just about the tooth. Oil could look very much like pastel in digital. And the handling is not that different. So it's a different animal than in the real world.

Pino, who I believe used oils, the illustrator of romance paperback covers who passed away a year or two ago is one of my all time favs for his brush facility and color use. And the women always look, as you would expect from romance novels, super gorgeous. A number of people ran with it. I don't think Caesar cared for his bright colors though. Didn't know if that was an Italian look or not. But I'm the opposite. I adore color. And I would personally love to get his overall effects in pastel. In the real world it would probably show up as softer and less streaky as one gets with a liquid medium brushed around.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nicolai+Fechin&client=firefox-a&hs=ZjU&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ImExVNvxHs21yATer4HwBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=925&bih=424#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&tbm=isch&q=Pino

Also, if you want to get into swashier styles, there's Nicolai Fetchin. A lot of these guys mixed medium (if memory served) and he used to put his paints on cardboard to suck out the linseed oil, thus making it a far drier medium. And that pushes into the pastel somewhat, although he changed stylistically over his long life.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nicolai+Fechin&client=firefox-a&hs=ZjU&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ImExVNvxHs21yATer4HwBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=925&bih=424

And there's another chap who has written lots of books on painting, Richard Schmid:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nicolai+Fechin&client=firefox-a&hs=ZjU&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ImExVNvxHs21yATer4HwBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=925&bih=424#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&tbm=isch&q=richard+schmid+artist

Not sure if this was one artist, but it was a look for years for a hair shampoo called Breck where the women's hair was the point of the pictures, and the smiling or alluring face showing all the world what a great shampoo could do for you. Sadly this page does not not at all do justice to what the actual ads showed. They were great. And with a little searching you could probably find some better samples.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nicolai+Fechin&client=firefox-a&hs=ZjU&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ImExVNvxHs21yATer4HwBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=925&bih=424#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&tbm=isch&q=breck+girl

A place for you to look for pastel paintings is in advertising from around the 1960s and before. I don't know when markers came in and took over the market for doing comps, but before that it was largely pastel with highlights in gouache. It was super speedy and incredibly effective for getting a quick dazzle. It was a tool for working up ideas and showing clients ideas. It was like the best ever chalkboard. The problem, naturally, was keeping the pastels from smudging. Spray fixatives killed the look and ascetate and paper covers rubbed and pulled it off some with static. I think the person who found a great way to preserve pastels was Degas, though I never found what his formula was. Anyway, now with digital, that's all academic and we can get the wonderful ability to do pastels and never have a care for them getting smudged.

I could go on and on, but these are some starting points. As you can see, there is a range of styles here. But all good to look at. I really love your postings. Wonderful work and a joy to look at.

AndreaMG
10-06-2014, 06:07 AM
Thank you Dear D, I love Richard Schmid's portraits, didn't know about that shampoo, haha so funny. Actually I'm looking for portraits done only with pastels (all the images I posted I think are all made only with pastels :)) because I want to capture what others have already accomplished, but It's not easy to find good examples, it's oils everywhere :)

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D Akey
10-06-2014, 06:32 AM
Yeah. I couldn't find much either -- at least not good examples. There are different styles in pastel. Look at Marie Cassatt who I think did some pastels of children and mothers. Also, like I said, Degas. Bonnard too -- but I'm really digging into my memory banks back to my art school days. Oh, and don't knock the Breck ads until you've seen a proper reproduction. They're phenomenal how they manage really beautiful women in pastel.

Two basic ways to go that I know of: Blended soft with some late finishing touch linear accents in critical areas for detail. Or broken color where you juxtapose colors for the dynamic artsy effect.

Beyond that your guess is as good as mine. Anyway, have fun. :):):):):)

eighty+
10-06-2014, 07:32 AM
Hi Andy. So your going on pastel. I must say I like the pastels that you've shown. They look like the

Top range I've a Box of 60 portrait pastels by Talons. Called Rembrandt Which I dabbled with

Be for finding Artrange done a few degas. And Mary cassett. But there ' s a girl. Back in. 1700.?? At a

guess A French noble woman In the French court. Who was the top's with pastel. Sorry I can't.

Remember her name. Ok. But gongrats. Take a photo of your work so we can see at the forums. O.K

And don't forget pastel soft always looks better when photoed STATTE. BBUONO. Si S

Also you might find Conte. White sticks can come in handy :D:cool::cool::cool:

AndreaMG
10-06-2014, 09:09 AM
Thank you so much Dear D my friend :cool::cool::cool::):D;):o

Thank you Dear E, I think I will order them next week, I read that Unison pastels are good so I will go with them, and I will also get some carré ones. Glad to know that you draw with pastels too, I will ask you for some advice for sure :cool: I will look for that noble french woman, I'll google her :o. I'll show my works for sure, this time I won't quit untill I will get something decent ;) Hasta la vista! my friend :D CIAO and STATTE BBUONO... SI SI :cool:

Caesar
10-06-2014, 11:20 PM
Looking forward to see soon some wonderful pastel masterpiece from You then, dear Andrea! You must have spent a fortune to get so many pastels, but You certainly need quite a lot of them if You want to reach all the subtle tones Your references require!

eighty+
10-07-2014, 01:28 AM
Hi Andy A famous Pastel artist Italien Rosalba Carriera ok

AndreaMG
10-07-2014, 10:04 AM
I hope it will be a good investment Dear Caesar :D

Thank you Dear E, buona notte and ˇVaya con Dios! :D

leechie
10-08-2014, 01:09 AM
Gets a thumbs up from me

Opening my thread/gallery with the gift from the lovely Lady Katie/Coops. Thank you ^^

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Hi Everyone. This is my first work with ArtRage (previously I used procreate+ipad). It's done with intuos pro m in 8 hours (no tracing). I had some trouble with her hair so I went to the stylized route :p
EDIT: I was not happy with my first painting so I heavily modified it, first of all I cheated using the transformation tools to get more correct proportions :p, then I used a lot of frost knife and airbrush tools on her face to achieve maximum realism and finally I redid entirely her hair... Hope you like it :D

Click on the picture for larger view

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AndreaMG
10-08-2014, 09:44 AM
Thank you ^^

kenmo
10-09-2014, 02:06 AM
Awesome work...and cool thread...:cool::cool::cool:

AndreaMG
10-09-2014, 08:55 AM
Thank you :cool::cool::cool:

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Alexandra
10-11-2014, 02:38 AM
Andrea, what a museum of eye catching and stunning beauty. You are so talented.
I love the Native American children as well, have a tiny bit of Cherokee blood running through my veins.
Excellent, dear, excellent.:cool::cool::cool:

AndreaMG
10-11-2014, 03:07 AM
Andrea, what a museum of eye catching and stunning beauty. You are so talented.
I love the Native American children as well, have a tiny bit of Cherokee blood running through my veins.
Excellent, dear, excellent.:cool::cool::cool:

Thank you Dear Alexandra, unfortunately they are not mine, it's a set of drawings done in pastels by Harley Brown :cool: They are masterful indeed. I was posting some pastels works that I like because I'm trying to draw with that media myself. You thinking they were mine it's too much of a compliment :o Cheers

Alexandra
10-11-2014, 03:39 AM
Oh dear, this is what happens when one is in such a hurry!:o:p:o:o:o
So sorry, Andrea. I do so love your work though, and see no challenge with you!
I too am looking forward to viewing your terrific pieces that are from such tasteful and masterful paintings!xx

AndreaMG
10-11-2014, 09:28 AM
Thank you so much :o

AndreaMG
11-03-2014, 04:22 AM
Winter's coming in the Northern Hemisphere so here's some Vitamin C :o

Please do take it, I mean... watch it at full size :)

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stevemawmv
11-03-2014, 06:33 AM
Winter's coming in the Northern Hemisphere so here's some Vitamin C :o[I]Please do take it, I mean... Ahhhhh!......You know, I' am feeling better already!
Good to see a painting from you Andrea, and thanks for prescription.......Just what the doctor ordered....it is starting to get a little cold in the evenings.
Take care friend,
Steve

gxhpainter2
11-03-2014, 06:38 AM
very warming indeed AndreaMG, beautiful work I was studying the subtle color and modeling that makes up her smile so convincingly . and the great color and abstract work in her hair and blacks toward the bottom of the painting. a nice work and great to see a new one from you.. guess you are healed up from your longboard accident..:):):):cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::coo l:

D Akey
11-03-2014, 07:46 AM
Far out, I feel like I took a hit of ascorbic acid. . . WoW. As the doctor's used to say, "Take two and call me in the morning." I think in this case one is just fine.

She's looking particularly sunny and bright. How could anyone not feel upbeat with this palette and those bright eyes and smile. Good to see you back painting. When you weren't here for so long we were long bored, so I feel your return is healing. :rolleyes::):):):):)

Caesar
11-03-2014, 11:30 PM
How many times a day may we safely take her, dear Andrea? As You know, since Eva times a nice girlfriend and a apple a day took the doctor away ... but watch non snake's around ... ;):oLOL As for the artpiece, can I add something else to Your value as a painter than it's not evident by just looking?

eighty+
11-04-2014, 12:22 AM
corr Andy very nice but I was looking hoping for a Pastel ?? ;):D:D:D:D:D:D:D CIAO STATTE BBUONO...Si........Si

Marilyn Anne
11-04-2014, 04:27 AM
Tremendously illustrative like an advertisement for good health and cheer!

AndreaMG
11-04-2014, 11:00 AM
Ahhhhh!......You know, I' am feeling better already!
Good to see a painting from you Andrea, and thanks for prescription.......Just what the doctor ordered....it is starting to get a little cold in the evenings.
Take care friend,
Steve

Haha, thank you Dear Steve, just follow the prescription and everything will be fine :o. Temperatures are getting pretty cold here as well. Ciao and take care and best wishes!


very warming indeed AndreaMG, beautiful work I was studying the subtle color and modeling that makes up her smile so convincingly . and the great color and abstract work in her hair and blacks toward the bottom of the painting. a nice work and great to see a new one from you.. guess you are healed up from your longboard accident..:):):):cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::coo l:

Thank you Dear Gary, I recovered from the fall pretty quickly. So glad you like her, painting teeth is quite boring and very difficult so the key is to simplify :o CIAO


Far out, I feel like I took a hit of ascorbic acid. . . WoW. As the doctor's used to say, "Take two and call me in the morning." I think in this case one is just fine.
She's looking particularly sunny and bright. How could anyone not feel upbeat with this palette and those bright eyes and smile. Good to see you back painting. When you weren't here for so long we were long bored, so I feel your return is healing. :rolleyes::):):):):)

Thank you Dear D :o:o:o Someone please clone her because I see that the need of this kind of highly concentrated Vitamin C is very high :cool:


How many times a day may we safely take her, dear Andrea? As You know, since Eva times a nice girlfriend and a apple a day took the doctor away ... but watch non snake's around ... ;):oLOL As for the artpiece, can I add something else to Your value as a painter than it's not evident by just looking?

Haha, thank you Dear Caesar, sure you can take it but beware of the collateral effects, your head might spin and spin a lot, she's PURE VITAMIN C, you've got to be prepared :cool:


Tremendously illustrative like an advertisement for good health and cheer!

Thank you :o:o:o She sure does :cool: CIAO


corr Andy very nice but I was looking hoping for a Pastel ?? ;):D:D:D:D:D:D:D CIAO STATTE BBUONO...Si........Si

Thank you Dear E+, pastels are part of the past right now :o Take the Vitamin C and have a good night my friend :cool::cool:

copespeak
11-04-2014, 11:42 AM
Fresh and bright and beautifully painted, as always.

Caesar
11-04-2014, 11:05 PM
Shall I make some specific excercises and practice at home to prepare, dear Andrea? :eek:....LOL:o;):p:D

AndreaMG
11-05-2014, 10:45 AM
Fresh and bright and beautifully painted, as always.

Thank you Dear Robyn, maybe for you since you live I think at the Antipodes where I am a sun lotion would be more appropriate rather than a Vitamin C :cool:


Shall I make some specific excercises and practice at home to prepare, dear Andrea? :eek:....LOL:o;):p:D

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Alexandra
11-07-2014, 12:35 AM
Wonderful painting, and such a pretty young woman. Great work dear Andrea.

AndreaMG
11-09-2014, 08:23 AM
Thank you Dear Alexandra :cool::cool:

Back in 2012 according to McAfee Emma Watson was the 'most dangerous' celebrity to search for online, now it's 2014 so I guess it's safe to post a painting of her :cool:

Please do watch her at full size :o

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copespeak
11-09-2014, 10:41 AM
What an absolute ripper of a painting Andrea! I love those long confident sweeps of colour, and you have achieved her complex personality so well. Good job!!! :) :)

D Akey
11-09-2014, 12:31 PM
Back in 2012 according to McAfee Emma Watson was the 'most dangerous' celebrity to search for online, now it's 2014 so I guess it's safe to post a painting of her :cool:

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Super as usual. Only thing I would point out is the perspective on the glasses. The half on the right could come up in size a hair. . .

I love the confident strokes in this one. Particularly dynamic.

Where do you find all these gorgeous blonds? You planning on hanging out on the ski slopes? You should this winter and get lots of inspiration.

Inspiring! Keep painting!!!!! Some day you should send something to the person you painted. I bet they would be super flattered. And you also might want to make sacrifice. . . These goddesses love their presents and much as you love their presence.

Paint Andrea Paint!!!!!

AndreaMG
11-10-2014, 02:50 AM
Thank you Dear Robyn! :cool::cool::cool:

Thank you Dear D! I tweaked the sunglasses a little bit, raised the contrast and lowered the saturation :)

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eighty+
11-10-2014, 03:04 AM
Hi Andy its good to have you back where you belong, Painting beautiful Blondes and showing me

how its done yep the brain Boogles Gongrats Ciao STATTE BBUONO ..Si....Si Hasta la Vista

D Akey
11-10-2014, 03:40 AM
Crackin' good lad! I love the strokes! I like the change to the glasses too. Nice. :):):):):)

AndreaMG
11-10-2014, 07:12 AM
Thank U Dear E+ & D! :cool::cool::cool:

Here's a remastered version of the "Vitamin C" painting, I think "Vitamin C2" will be more appropriate for this one :p

Please do watch her at full size :o

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D Akey
11-10-2014, 08:05 AM
She's selling generic Vitamin C, I think. :rolleyes: To my eye, it possesses such quick strokes that it's stepping away from a portrait and moving into the area of a marker comp that I would actually see for a presentation to a client at an advertising agency pitching an ad campaign that would later be done with photography or film, maybe even illustration.

Nothing wrong with that, but it's feedback of what this particular look might evoke in people who have actually seen marker comps. In other words, you could do this painting without any reference and it feels like you're painting using a formula. And if that's what you're aiming at, well and good. If you're going for something more, I would perhaps suggest that you find a way to make it more (pick an artistic adjective).

I very much like the previous one because there are things to focus in on. This one is a super quick read. Keep plugging away, Andrea! Gotta love experimenting. It's often like panning for gold. :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

stevemawmv
11-10-2014, 08:36 AM
Fresh, Sharp and loaded With Style.....Beautiful stuff Andrea, and thanks for my vitamin C reminder, great job on her remaster...
Thanks for checking in on me....
Take care friend,
Steve

AndreaMG
11-10-2014, 10:47 AM
Thank you Dear D, I tweaked the painting without looking at the reference and that's what came out :cool:. I think she kinda looked like a geisha :o in the first painting so I accentuated the pale of her face and applied a strong red lipstick, the red marks are some sort of frame to her smile. To me this is better than the previous one because it was a bit messy and still too close to the reference. I don't know if it's me but every time I simplify the teeth with a white mark they always look like an advertising of the past, but in this case since she's selling vitamin C I guess it's OK :cool:

Thank you Dear Steve!!! So glad you're back safe and sound :o

AndreaMG
11-10-2014, 10:56 AM
Reference pic:

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My take:

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Eighty's version of my take (i.e. Mexican style :cool:):

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AndreaMG
11-10-2014, 11:02 AM
And here's "Vitamin C" comparison :cool::

Reference pic:

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Take #1:

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Take #2:

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Enug
11-10-2014, 02:31 PM
Wonderful, especially your colourful interpretation of her hair.

stevemawmv
11-10-2014, 03:42 PM
Love seeing them all....Great page!
Eighty's version is a blast....
Take care,
Steve

Caesar
11-10-2014, 10:59 PM
I think You're going to become a VIP portraiture top master as soon as the celebrities acknowledge Your work, dear Andrea! I didn't know that Emma Watson was so dangereous as You seemed to imply. In case I'd better move my pieces about her in this thread, since You are already riskin to be sued anyway.

AndreaMG
11-11-2014, 09:59 AM
Wonderful, especially your colourful interpretation of her hair.

Thank you!!! Glad you like her hair since I always struggle with representing them properly :o


Love seeing them all....Great page!
Eighty's version is a blast....
Take care,
Steve

Haha thank you Dear friend!


I think You're going to become a VIP portraiture top master as soon as the celebrities acknowledge Your work, dear Andrea! I didn't know that Emma Watson was so dangereous as You seemed to imply. In case I'd better move my pieces about her in this thread, since You are already riskin to be sued anyway.

What marvelous art pieces, second one is so hilarious :cool: No virus risks here Dear Cesare :cool: Thank you! (e non esagerate con tutti 'sti gol :cool:)

copespeak
11-11-2014, 10:08 AM
Love your last two Caesar! You two are so clever! :cool: