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copespeak
01-31-2013, 04:42 PM
My beautiful dog Lily had two major seizures this morning, the first she has ever had.

I painted this while I waited for the specialist to ring.

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D Akey
01-31-2013, 05:43 PM
Aaawwww. . . I'm so sorry.

justjean
01-31-2013, 07:09 PM
I'm so sorry Robyn when it's our pets it is hard, hope things will be ok

semd74
01-31-2013, 09:45 PM
Hope your dog is ok

copespeak
01-31-2013, 09:52 PM
Thanks guys. xx

limey-g
02-01-2013, 01:16 AM
Sorry to hear about this,one of Siberians many years back suffered with seizures so lots of experience with this.
Firstly, often there is an underlying cause for the seizures, not necessarily that it is epilepsy.
Secondly, although it can be difficult for the owner to handle during an episode, many can be treated with medication.
Regards Geoff
ps interesting painting

grayflo
02-01-2013, 02:16 AM
So sorry about Lily, copespeak. I hope the situation is improving now.
The painting really depicts the shock and bewilderment of it all. The mobile phone gives hope of help on the way. Please keep us updated. Sending you kind thoughts,Lin.

Caesar
02-01-2013, 02:35 AM
I can understand You somehow feel the pain and ache You imagine Your poor dog has to stand, even worse, the fear for undergoing such a cruent, though necessary treatment. There isn't any way to shield whom we love or care for from bad experiences, pains etc. All we may do and they may benefit from is to be there, share and support their own psychological resources. Life is what it is, marvellous and thorny as well, but I sincerely wish all the best for prompt recovery.

Lindae
02-01-2013, 02:35 AM
So sorry about Lily's problem. I had a dog who had seizures too. The vet put him on Valium which seemed to keep the seizures at bay for years. They probably have better treatments now, so I'm sure your vet will find the underlying problem and resolve it and Lily will be good as new. Your painting did a great job depicting what I thought my dog was experiencing when it happened to him--and how I felt watching it, too!

coops
02-01-2013, 02:43 AM
So sorry to hear about your doggie, its suprising what they can do these days. Hope all goes well:)

gxhpainter2
02-01-2013, 04:20 AM
copespeak, hope things go well, my previous dog started having seizures and I gave him some meds and keep them under control. Hope the underlying condition is not serious..

kenmo
02-01-2013, 05:49 AM
So sorry to hear about your dog... Like the painting....

Gms9810
02-01-2013, 08:01 AM
My dog, Moosey used to have seizures, just before they would happen he would run to me and bury his head between my hands. It terrified him.

copespeak
02-01-2013, 09:09 AM
Where would I be without all you lovely people? xx

Gms9810
02-01-2013, 10:57 PM
It's find to find real, genuine friends online. So many people try to act like someone else and or are rude online in ways they would never be in 'real life'. I've done well with it though, my wife and I met online 13 years ago and I met my best friend online a little less than that. He was a disabled nam vet who lived in Washington state. He died two years ago. We used to be big in Yahoo chat and met a lot of people there. In 03 we got a little money so we took a long vacation. We drove through 13 states and met several of those people in person. Some of them are my closest friends on facebook now.

copespeak
02-02-2013, 12:34 AM
She was so ill this morning I took her for a MRI, expecting to put her to sleep this afternoon. The MRI showed she had an inflamed optical nerve after her eye removal last year, and has her time on this earth extended for a few days to see if cortisone and antibiotics might help. Veterinary science is soooo amazing now,

limey-g
02-02-2013, 01:04 AM
That is hopeful news, so often there is an underlying reason for seizures, that is great that you could even get an MRI done on your dog, that kind of test s not available to pets here in Canada I don't think .
Thinking of you
Geoff

pat1940
02-02-2013, 02:56 AM
Dear copespeak, you painting expresses the awful turmoil you and your pet are going thru, so very sorry and glad the mri was done, we do all that is possible to save out wonderful pets
we miss ours dearly, lost him 5 months ago, he was over 15 yrs old......wish you all the best, the vets have so much knowledge today, much more than in the past....good luck and keep
us posted

D Akey
02-02-2013, 04:00 AM
Wow. Isn't it the truth. Medicine (Science) is indeed amazing these days. Hope the medication that I assume they're prescribing helps.

RobertSWade
02-02-2013, 04:12 AM
All my best to you and your dear friend.

copespeak
02-02-2013, 08:10 AM
Thank you all so much for your good wishes. She is up and a little bit cheeky this morning, though still with the jerky symptoms and the occasional tumble. I am very hopeful this morning that we are on the right track and in time.

I'm sure the loving vibes she is getting from you worldwide is flowing into her. xx

grayflo
02-02-2013, 09:51 AM
Great news! It must be a relief to see her pain and alarm subsiding. Sending you warmest wishes, Lin

copespeak
02-02-2013, 11:23 AM
Thank you Lin, very much. It has been a traumatic time for us all, and a lot of suffering for a very brave girl. :D

hypotaxis
02-02-2013, 02:44 PM
Thank you Lin, very much. It has been a traumatic time for us all, and a lot of suffering for a very brave girl. :D
I'm glad things are on the improve. I worked as a shepherd for years and every working dog I had found a place in my heart.

No dogs now, just beautiful elegant cats!

Take care

Brett

chinapete
02-02-2013, 02:59 PM
... soon it will be time for a new portrait :)

Mairzie Dotes
02-02-2013, 03:04 PM
copespeak,
Thank goodness that the news is now positive and better
days are hopefully ahead. Your expressive abstract exemplifies
your love and concern. Best wishes for a full recovery. :D

copespeak
02-02-2013, 04:47 PM
Yesterday I was thinking I would be painting the Lily going up to heaven painting. Today I am planning Lily running around joyfully in the garden! Fingers crossed!

You're all lovely, and I do appreciate it. :D

RobertSWade
02-02-2013, 05:32 PM
Glad to see the good news about Lily. Tomorrow will do as it sees fit and we mere humans have no say other than what we did today. She obviously is well loved and if she could speak (as well she can in her own way) she would say to you, "Thank you for loving me. I love you too."

screenpainter
02-02-2013, 08:31 PM
sorry to hear that Lily is having some trouble. glad to hear the prognosis in good.
thought the art work was first rate.

Alexandra
02-03-2013, 01:24 AM
Dear Copespeak, I had a precious furry soul many years back we named Bear. One morning he also suffered a seizure. We found out that it was caused by the flea drops that I purchased at the store. The vet informed me of various other options including some natural things to use. I haven't read all the posts, but my heartfelt prayers are with you and your sweet companion.

copespeak
02-03-2013, 08:33 AM
It's really amazing how many of you have had a dog with seizures, and also, how you loved them. They ask for so little and offer so much.

My other poodle is standing patiently my my chair, waiting for my hand to drop to her back for a scratch.

Lily was not good last night, but seems more settled this morning. We will watch her closely over the next few days until her medication runs out.

limey-g
02-03-2013, 09:06 AM
It is kind of interesting how other dogs responded in a kennel environment . At that time we had 18 Siberians in our kennel building
Our girl Zesty suffered from seizures and another one of our Sibes "Tara" would let us know quite some time before when Zesty was going to have an episode.
Non of the other Sibes responded this way.
Geoff

copespeak
02-03-2013, 10:55 AM
Wow! What were you doing with 18 Siberians?

Interesting how one could sense another's seizures. They certainly do have a few extra senses that we don't.

limey-g
02-03-2013, 11:10 AM
Wow! What were you doing with 18 Siberians?

Interesting how one could sense another's seizures. They certainly do have a few extra senses that we don't.
We have raised Siberian Husky show dogs since the late seventies, one of our boys was the top Siberian in Oz.
We have a fifty acre farm and our kennel building is 70 feet long so lots of room for them.
Geoff

copespeak
02-04-2013, 10:35 AM
By Oz, do you mean Australia? Siberians are such a handsome dog.

limey-g
02-04-2013, 12:47 PM
By Oz, do you mean Australia? Siberians are such a handsome dog.
Yes Australia he used to live in Sydney.
Geoff

Bobbyray
02-04-2013, 03:07 PM
Robyn

That is sad news but try to stay positive and keep the faith. The comfort you give her she understands and loves you for it. Our pets are our love and our love is our pets.

copespeak
02-04-2013, 04:15 PM
Thanks Robert. We are keeping the faith the best we can, and she is holding her own so far.

Saphire
02-04-2013, 09:26 PM
Robyn, I have only just seen this thread, so sorry to hear Lily has been so poorly. I know how hard it is when you see your pet is suffering, you just feel so helpless.
I am sending lots of good vibes to help in her recovery.

copespeak
02-05-2013, 09:08 AM
Thank you for caring Christine. She is doing OK, but is not out of the woods yet by a long shot. It's hard when you now have bright eyed, functioning dog that is still getting huge nerve jolts in her head all day. She just waits for the next one to hit, goes glassy eyed for a minute, then gets on with life.

We will see. xxx

limey-g
02-05-2013, 09:16 AM
What kind of medication is your dog on at the moment.
Geoff

copespeak
02-05-2013, 09:31 AM
She's on huge doses of anti-convulsant (human) Gabapentin, antibiotic Clavulox, cortisone Prednisolone, and herbal tabs from the Vet acupuncturist we tried last week. The bug is deep into the optic nerve/edge of the brain and will be very hard to reach for a biopsy. Two specialists will consult tomorrow, so we will have some ideas on where to go from here.

D Akey
02-05-2013, 12:04 PM
As you say, fingers crossed. Hang in there.

n00b
02-05-2013, 01:11 PM
I know all to well what You are going through at the moment. It´s a cliché and it doesnt offer any consolation but I say to myself that what I invest in love - I have to pay for with sadness eventually.
I´m on my sixth dog now of the same breed, a boxer three years old. They have all been males and I just love their spirit and playfulness. There has been illness and surgery to remove tumors and two of the dogs were shortlived so I have been there. A couple of years ago we had an MRI taken in an University Hospital. I was very surprised to see that they squeezed my dog in between human patients. He had a tumor in the small brain affecting his balance. But even when he lost his balance and tumbled over, he was keeping up his spirit.
The vet called the day after and told me the situation and he said there was nothing they could do..
So - Next day we called the clinic and asked for a special vetrenairian whom we knew and felt comfortable with and we set a time that day. My thinking on dogs is that they are aninmals in a pack and they probably depend quite a bit of their pack, much so if there is a chance of tagging along migrating with mum and dad in the car to do some grocerygetting for example. So I have seen dogs who had a great deal of discomfort due to pain, but they were really consious to not let the rest of the pack notice what they were going through. I think a pack member instinctively knows what can happen if you are too weak to run with the pack. But our dogs are shortterm loanes and they are with us so we may learn and grow as humans. All my dogs have been educating me. The guy we lost to braintumor - he never missed an opportunity to show me what things in life he valued most, he really took me into his world and he always let me understand how funderfully goofy and fun life could be in his mind.
Be strong for your dogs sake and whatch over her wellbeing - shes expecting no less from you.
It´s so hard to loose a dear friend and I took up painting again to be able to create som visible tracks of my beloved friends long gone. We send our good thoughts your direction and hope things get better.

copespeak
02-05-2013, 01:41 PM
N00b, you are so lovely, and thanks for taking the time to write.

I never thought about dogs not wanting to show others their weakness. An interesting theory and rings true to me.

"What I invest in love - I have to pay for with sadness eventually".... a beautiful way of saying it.

My partner's been a farmer in his time and says, "You've got livestock, you've got dead stock!'" A bit brutal, but pretty realistic as well. We do watch our animals come and go.

I had a wonderful boxer years ago, and my daughter has one now. They don't live long, and are plagued with heart problems and cancer, and he had both. Breeders need to address this problem, because there a lot of loving owners out there suffering from poor breeding practices.

Sad thing about Lily is that now we have a handle on what ails her, if the vets who removed her eye had given antibiotics post surgery, and especially when I told them the twitching began less than a week later, she would never have had this dreadful infection. And, of course, her eye was wrongly diagnosed and didn't need removal in the first place. Malpractice multiplied!!

It's hard to watch your dog suffer at any time, but especially when she didn't need to.

Oh dear...... cheer up Robyn!!! :D :D :D

copespeak
02-08-2013, 05:08 AM
Cuddled in my arms, Lily slipped quietly into doggie heaven at 2.30am this morning, assisted by an exceptionally caring vet.

Woken by a massive seizure and seriously disoriented for a long while afterwards, it was a blessed release for us to help her end her suffering.

R.I.P. my darling girl. ♥ ♥ ♥

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I Photoshopped this 'cloud poodle' a few years back, never dreaming I would use it for this.

justjean
02-08-2013, 05:26 AM
I am so sorry Robyn, I know the feeling well but you showed your love for Lily by letting her go

D Akey
02-08-2013, 05:30 AM
I am so sorry. That's a beautiful cloud picture and a wonderful tribute.

limey-g
02-08-2013, 05:38 AM
So sorry Robyn, you did all you could and more and i am pleased that you held her as she slipped peacefully away.
They give us so much unconditional love during their time with us and I likely more than many know the hurt you are feeling right now having gone through this so many times.
You have to remember the good times you have shared together.
Thinking of you dear friend.
Geoff

Gms9810
02-08-2013, 06:19 AM
I'm really sad to read that, everybody wants to say something comforting at times like this, but there just anything that really works. The only thing that helps me at all is knowing that I have friends who have known that same sadness.

grayflo
02-08-2013, 07:47 AM
I am very sad for you Robyn. And send you love and warmest thoughts. You cloud poodle is, as someone above has said, a wonderful tribute to your darling companion.

moosie
02-08-2013, 07:50 AM
My heart goes out to you.. 72929

gxhpainter2
02-08-2013, 07:54 AM
Robyn, very sad indeed, but it sounds like you gave Lily a wonderful life and a loving passage..

hypotaxis
02-08-2013, 08:11 AM
Oh dear that is sad news.

Take care of yourself. Hot baths, white wine (Kiwi of course!) and roses are recommended :-)

In peace

Brett

Marilyn Anne
02-08-2013, 08:27 AM
They are so precious.

copespeak
02-08-2013, 11:01 AM
I can't tell you how much all your lovely messages have made me cry, but warmed my heart. Moosie, for your poem, hypotaxis, I will toast her tonight with some champagne, medicinal and celebratory.

I got up early and went down to where my lovely man buried Lily at 3am. The sun was just up, the breeze was still, the dappled sunlight trickling through our little forest onto the fresh turned earth. My funny old lady sheepies came and stood around me, sensing something profound had happened, and Chevy came and nibbled my fingers. We all stood there together and listened to the birds' early morning chatter, and watched a kookaburra swoop low over her grave.

All is well in the world.

Onwards and upwards. :D

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screenpainter
02-08-2013, 11:14 AM
Robyn, sorry for your loss. Beautiful pics from there of the nature around you remind me of renewal and hope. It looks like you may be heading into Autumn? I can't wait for Spring. It has been a rather chilling and gray winter here. I saw a list today on MSN that showed Oz and NZ both in the top five happiest places to live in the world.
Talk about off subject, any way, I think we never forget our pets and what they mean to us. I hope they run with us again in heaven or the hereafter.
I wish you comfort in your time of loss.

limey-g
02-08-2013, 11:37 AM
Robyn thanks for the photo's it allows us all to share Lilies resting place which is a lovely spot.
Geoff

copespeak
02-08-2013, 12:22 PM
Thank you Geoff and Screenpainter. Yes, it's a beautiful spot and particularly so this morning. There was such peace, each detail seemed to coalesce into just one perfect moment where time stood still.

Screenpainter, it has been a very dry summer, and the grass is crackling underfoot. We're a bit over it and waiting for autumn next month. Of course, my man mumbled darkly about digging a deep hole for a large dog, where the earth is like concrete. He did it earlier in the day when we knew she was crashing again, so all he had to do was fill it in at 3am, poor thing.

Oz and New Zealand are both wonderful places to live. Our countries are peaceful, prosperous, and we have a strong sense of how lucky we are as a society.

Your winters in Washington (?) are pretty chilly from what I understand. We don't have those cold extremes that you do, and rarely go below 0 degrees C. But it does get pretty hot in summer, which I hate.

limey-g
02-08-2013, 12:49 PM
I know what your guy means about digging through very dry ground we know what that is like when we put fence posts in and we have clay soil.
Of course the worst time for us and digging is the winter when we can have a couple of feet of frost in the ground. That is really tough.
You have some nice sheep there, the next farm to ours is a shepherd with quite a large flock.
Take care, thinking of you.
Geoff

gxhpainter2
02-09-2013, 06:44 AM
Robyn, such beautiful pictures, I love trees and being outside... this has been a deeply moving experience for us all thanks so much for sharing all the events of the past few weeks with us...

copespeak
02-09-2013, 09:14 AM
Thank you too, for being a part of it. It has helped my grieving process, to find the positives out of such a dark time ... like people who loved her so much from around here, and empathy from those around the world.

We've just had breakfast, and I missed her head always under my hand, waiting for her Saturday morning piece of toast and vegemite. Another ritual over.

xxx