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limey-g
06-11-2012, 07:44 AM
My feeble attempt at a pencil sketch, something i know little about.
Geoff

jibes
06-11-2012, 07:59 AM
Geoff, I'd say not feeble at all but nicely done!

limey-g
06-11-2012, 08:12 AM
Geoff, I'd say not feeble at all but nicely done!
Thanks jibes, I must confess I feel totally out of my depth with just a pencil.
Geoff

Alexandra
06-11-2012, 09:48 PM
Great work Geoff.:)

coops
06-11-2012, 10:10 PM
Thats a super drawing Geoff:)

limey-g
06-11-2012, 11:42 PM
Thanks Alexandra and coops , I was not sure if to post it or not, I decided to attempt this as i have a new tablet and after using the old one for some 8 yrs
I thought a good idea to get used to the new settings in artrage for the new one.
Geoff

Caesar
06-12-2012, 12:02 AM
I see You started pretty well with pencil, thus You'll soon become a master with this tool too.
I'm sorry I cannot comment Your other work because the Facebook word in the title causes its filtering in our premises.
I'll have to remind to have a look in the evening at home, even if it's a period of European Championship (soccer, ša va sans dir), so I'll be busy watching the matches, interviews and reportings ...
Yesterday Italy scared a little bit the world and European champions of Spain (it eventually ended 1-1), so it looks a pretty promising start (our teams are the two who won the last two editions of world championship).

limey-g
06-12-2012, 12:40 AM
I see You started pretty well with pencil, thus You'll soon become a master with this tool too.
I'm sorry I cannot comment Your other work because the Facebook word in the title causes its filtering in our premises.
I'll have to remind to have a look in the evening at home, even if it's a period of European Championship (soccer, ša va sans dir), so I'll be busy watching the matches, interviews and reportings ...
Yesterday Italy scared a little bit the world and European champions of Spain (it eventually ended 1-1), so it looks a pretty promising start (our teams are the two who won the last two editions of world championship).

Thanks Caesar for your kind words, I hope to get better with the pencil as time goes by.
BTW I took the Facebook word out of my title for my other work so you might be able to see it now, just called " My friend "
Regards Geoff

Caesar
06-12-2012, 12:59 AM
Thank You, dear Geoff! I'll give a look right now then.

D Akey
06-12-2012, 02:39 AM
Don't be harsh on yourself. This is really good for an early go. I can see that the other work you have been doing which has been very closely tied to the photographic reproduction has been training you in what makes beautiful women translate to beautiful pictures. I can see you have all the elements placed pretty well. So not it's merely a matter of editing out that which is not as important, and sharpening up that which is.

There are several schools of thought on what is important. I am inclined to believe like most that it is the head being the area of greatest focus, and within that the features you want to emphasize -- including all of it, if that is how you want it.

And then, after the head, you can get a little looser if you want, in order to flavor it and balance it with an artistic hand. However, you may be of the school to render it entirely, which is fine as well. But this drawing looks like you could take it either way. And time will tell as you evolve.

In this one, like I say, it's not bad at all. And you could experiment on a separate copy, saving this one, by pushing your values in the face more, especially the eyes and mouth and for balance a little in the hair. But with the eyes, you can have more of a value range so that you can imply the blue of them with more in-between values by having the lashes and such going to black. It widens the value range. What I mean is that if you do it, you don't have to make everything that has gray on it blacker. It's selective and black in certain places will make it so. It's to make it a symphony in B&W.

By the way, careful with the nose. It's sort of flattening out and the nostrils are rather dark. Study the form a little and manipulate your lighting to make it work. Lighting is a great tool, especially in B&W.

Nice one. Suggests lots of success in this direction for you.

pat1940
06-12-2012, 02:41 AM
Geoff, I think this is a fantastic start so dont sell yourself short, and knowing you for your wonderful portraits and dog paintings, you will accomplish anything

gxhpainter2
06-12-2012, 04:58 AM
Geoff...nice work and hardly a feeble effort.. except maybe in measuring what you envisioned and what you produced.... always a problem ;).. I like D Akey's helpful comments it is so helpful to have him articulate specifically what needs to happen in a work to make it stronger.. keep going I like your BW pencil works.

limey-g
06-12-2012, 05:22 AM
Thanks Pat and gxhpainter for your kind words of encouragement very much appreciated.

DAkey I welcome your constructive comments and I think I understand what you are saying.
I agree I should have made the elements in the face the eyes etc much stronger to draw attention to them.
I find one colour for everything a difficult thing to master compared to working in colour where the colours themselves bring out the important features.
Well I must keep trying, but the call of colour is strong.
Geoff

limey-g
06-12-2012, 06:21 AM
I decided to do some more work on my drawing, not sure if it is better or not.
Geoff

silvy
06-13-2012, 05:28 AM
I've lost this thread, sorry:o. Love both versions but I prefer the first one.:)

screenpainter
06-13-2012, 05:56 AM
is there a reference or are you just creating this out of your head?
It's very nice. that one section of hair that creates an angle and seems to lay atop the rest... could fit in more as a curve.
perhaps she could brush her hair? then have her sit down again. after all you must be enjoying the time with the lovely lady in your presence. :)
the hair has an unusual haircut being cut short on her left side. that is the way it reads anyway. still it's a very lovely portrait Geoff.

limey-g
06-13-2012, 06:38 AM
Thanks Silvy and screenpainter she is purely fictitious and it was just an idea to layer some hair on the top.
In all truth my imagination is sadly lacking and always feel more comfortable when i can at least look at a ref image.
Geoff