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Caesar
11-24-2011, 03:30 AM
Maybe I have got some clues for a new quick approach and style for a tasty watercolor use with some ancillary tools support ...
I'll try soon, but I would attach here a very preliminary test to get some answer where I didn't use dry setting and a second layer that would be useful too ...
After this experiment I furtherly confirm I would very much appreciate having a flat brush for watercolors too!

gxhpainter2
11-24-2011, 04:11 AM
Caesar... yes I think you are on to something here. you seem to have attained the necessary control over the tools to present a very credible watercolor effect.. very well done !;);) It would be cool to see one of your fantasy relationships done in this style too ;);)

kenmo
11-24-2011, 08:35 AM
Nice water color effects... looks pretty darn cool...:):):)

Caesar
11-24-2011, 09:09 PM
Thank You, dear Gary and Kenmo! Time to give a try soon then with some examples where I expect to face progressive difficulties ...

limey-g
11-25-2011, 03:41 AM
Nice going Caesar maybe when you have totally mastered it you can pass your knowledge on as I am hopeless at watercolour.
Geoff

D Akey
11-25-2011, 04:45 PM
Overall great experiment. There's a lot about it I like. Very cool brush work.

The look might be a bit too soft for most uses, but it might make a nice background for animation where it would look like the foreground character would be in sharp focus while the background would be soft, as would happen with a camera.

Looks like it was fun to do.

JMMK
11-25-2011, 07:19 PM
Lovely and soft, excellent.

Caesar
11-26-2011, 02:13 AM
Thank You, dear Geoff. I may already give You few hints, unfortunately not an authomatic procedure, since I always use very simple effects thus the painting requires always a manual sensitivity to get what You wish (or something similar enough to what's in Your mind).

Watercolor may give some grain either at low loadings or very low thinner and textured paper.
Low pressure chalk and very tilted pencil too. Some metallic may be interesting too.
You may use also the eraser at very low pressure.
Still to be introduced in my recent experiments, additional grain effects may be given by high pressure roller while the felt pen and the gloop pen may be an alternative to the dry watercolor setting.
You may use hard knife too, but the wet knife is far more frequent and useful also for having more interesting and fractal boundaries.
I use dry watercolor rarely and very discretly because some textures appears at stroke boundaries if You don't set wet paper and it's not that good for the sfumato (painting language more or less subtly fading colors and strokes, like chiaroscuro, velatura etc.).
I hope You may get some benefit by the abouve tips.

Dear D Akey, it really was fun and I'm also striving to get some of the tasty textures real watercolors have. Resolution and bondary definition is quite a challenge with watercolors here, also because a flat brush and a scroller-type setting would be very useful too.
Your suggestions on the use of this approach are very smart and useful, as usual for Your absolutely outstanding mind.
Thank You!

Thank You very much, dear JMMK. I still have to pile up enough tricks to simulate more of watercolor. For instance a quick way to get the famous cauliflowers when You drop a little water displacing pigment towards an indented rim.

justjean
11-26-2011, 03:48 AM
Caeser, a great test and a lovely painting :)

jibes
11-26-2011, 04:40 PM
Caesar you are right to say a flat brush is needed since in real watercolor a flat brush is very handy. I like your work here and especially because using the wc tools makes it a real challenge. However, I'm sure AR will improve its watercolor simulation in the future.
Your painting also has a gouache like feel to it IMO.

Caesar
11-27-2011, 11:18 AM
Thank You dear Jean and Jibes! I'm pretty sure I'll improve soon with new watercolor looking paintings.

waheednasir
11-29-2011, 04:57 PM
this is wonderful, very soft and moody and i say its a very good approach..:).

ritchblack
11-29-2011, 07:10 PM
Caesar , thanks for your sharing. great work as well !!

mannafig
11-29-2011, 10:34 PM
Very nice Dear Cesare I like the softness of this painting it works very well:):)

Caesar
11-29-2011, 10:46 PM
Thank You, dear Waheed! Use of watercolor only in ArtRage is very promising, but not that easy to work fast and spontaneously and get the right strokes to define some details and textures in a simple way. This approach (I integrated later on) may be useful to evocate paintings and part of them where resolution and neat lines are not necessary (or may be "seamlessly" added later on by pencil or pen).

I like this dreamy effect too, dear Amanda, also because it let's You evocate more than You actually see. Maybe such a soft style could be printed on a pillow cover and concur to a peaceful fall into sleep ... :p