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cartuneman
10-03-2011, 08:08 PM
I spent a lot of time this week painting this and thought I'd share it with you all. It was a bunch of fun to create and paint. I did this in multi layer and used the roller and the knife mostly on the bg and used the brush for the detailing and the paint of the horse and the cowboy. I would really like to know what you guys think.

Caesar
10-03-2011, 09:00 PM
This is marvellous and Your approach absolutely brilliant.
This simultaneously painterly and comicsly outcome is almost unique.
I was just considering whether some sort of complementary highlighting little strokes may help to put the horse head in evidence without taking the attention away from the cow-boy.

limey-g
10-04-2011, 12:07 AM
A really dynamic painting, I really like the whole concept, well thought out.
Geoff

barnburner
10-04-2011, 12:34 AM
I think this is just great! Splendid work. :):):):)

coops
10-04-2011, 12:45 AM
Wonderful painting once again Cartuneman. I like that the horse and master are both looking in the same direction. Is it that they have yet so far to go, who knows. Stunning work:)

cartuneman
10-04-2011, 02:58 AM
coops, barnburner, limey-g, Caesar, Thank you all so much for your comments. At first I had just the cowboy and then I added the horse as an after thought...lol I even tried the painting without the cowboy but it ended up like this. funny how things go huh?

pat1940
10-04-2011, 03:31 AM
What I think, this is a masterpiece, so well done, love the way you painted the cowboy's jacket...wow.....also congrats on artist of the month, well deserved:):):):):)

Peter Pinckney
10-04-2011, 03:36 AM
Really brilliantly painted....................

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D Akey
10-04-2011, 04:08 AM
It's good and a matter of finesse only. Problem is the lighting in the foreground. The horse is the center of the composition and the prime element, even more so than the cowboy, though the cowboy is important enough.

Yet the horse is kinda receding owing to everything else being bright and colorful. Logically, look at the lighting on the cowboy's jacket and so on. it's being hit by bright direct light of an almost white temperature. The horse looks like he is in shadow and that wouldn't make sense. So I think the horse needs some light hitting it to make it more interesting and fit in with the rest of the picture as it should dominate. Some color accents would also be appropriate if you though it warranted.

It's not so much about the source photo. It's what you're doing that you have to be concerned with -- the context of your picture. Please look at the color and value of the sky relative to the horse's body color. They're so close they are getting pulled to the same plane. I can see how you tried to make the horse work against all the elements right behind it, but that weakened it by putting the cart before the horse as it were. And looking at it, the underbelly and horse's backside are the eye pullers.

Not sure if you said this or not, but did you say you added the figures later? Or simply that you were working on separate layers and all along knew what was to be there? I have always found it challenging to drop in elements late in the game, especially where color played a key role as with Western paintings. But layers are very useful if you can keep flipping back and forth. It's very easy and useful to work that way.

That's it in a nutshell. Other than that, the forms are very good all around. And it's really close and certainly easily fixed.

gxhpainter2
10-04-2011, 04:35 AM
C-man....wow what a nice work...I am not usually drawn to western themes but this is just a nice painterly take on it. wish i could see this at a larger scale to appreciate the finer points. I have to agree with D Akey that the tone and color of the sky would give a greater sense of space at a much lighter tone and more towards blue for an atmospheric distance... love the cowboy very authentic... this is really a marvelous work ..;);):)

Lima
10-04-2011, 11:39 AM
Terrific image John. Nice comments. I like the dynamics and vitality of the horse.

Alexandra
10-04-2011, 02:20 PM
Fantastic John!:eek::):):):):):):):):):):)

cartuneman
10-04-2011, 03:31 PM
pat1940 thanks Pat, for the congrats ... lol but I am going to take this back to the drawing board a bit so to speak. the lighting is all wrong. glad you like it but I hope to make it better lol

D Akey I knew I could count on you sir!!! I have to agree with everything you said. I don't know why it looks washed out when I posted it here it really dosn't look all that bad on my screen except the cowboy just doesn't truly work for me yet I gotta tone him down a bit and separate them from the bg a bit better.

gxhpainter thank you sir and you also have a very discerning eye as well thank you for the advice.

Lima & Alexandra & Peter Pinckney thank you for your comments and glad you like it.

iceaxe
10-04-2011, 03:37 PM
Ok, this is total honesty (because of stress on the word "really")

I think
(a) the distant back ground at right is virtually genius level
(b) the horse and figure very engaging / interesting / good movement / attitude
(c) the immediate foreground good but might need a polish
(d) the middle ground (at left) is somehow a little too colour harsh and somehow discordant, (maybe needs be softer)

This is such a good painting that I would gladly study several hundred versions of (d) option to see which would work best
(Not that I'm suggesting etc, just my angle on this)

cartuneman
10-04-2011, 05:08 PM
ok I'm tired lol after work all day but here is a bit of a re touch ...still needs a bit more work but I think i may be headed in the right direction? I darkened the mid ground with the horse and added some highlights as if light coming in thru some trees and I lightened the foreground IE: the cowboy and eliminated some of his highlights and then I blued up the sky a bit. I also darkened the yellow canyon wall a bit to make the bg fall back a bit more. Any better? or worse? thanks for your advice Iceax I will try to do something with your suggestion and see how it turns out.

Caesar
10-04-2011, 08:50 PM
My preference goes to the first of these final two.
The horse is less flat and treated similarly enough to the man so that they look more as closer range group.

cartuneman
10-05-2011, 02:36 AM
thank you ceaser ....I am still going to work on it a bit more....lol I'm not sure if I even like the name of this painting hahahahahaha any Ideas?

Caesar
10-05-2011, 02:57 AM
... since You ask ... "Hey, look at that chic down there!" (from the cow-boy to his horse and referred to a wild mustang mare) :D

gxhpainter2
10-05-2011, 03:08 AM
C- Man... great rework... like the sun dapple on the horse.... just one thing and not to put to fine a point on it but where is his saddle?...guess he could just be out on a walk with this horse but does raise the question??? sorry but those things jump out at me...;). I love this painting with or without a saddle...:cool::cool::cool::D:D:D

cartuneman
10-06-2011, 02:47 AM
hey gxhpainter lol thanks ...lol ya a saddle? I decided I wouldn't put one on far into the painting....I'm like that lol and ceaser......you must have really good eyes......to be able to see the heard of wild mustang Mares down in the valley I had painted in there.....that is amazing lol:p

mannafig
10-06-2011, 04:43 AM
Outstanding dear Cartune:):)

jibes
10-06-2011, 05:38 AM
Super!!!!!

Bobbi
10-06-2011, 07:33 AM
Wow, this is a winner.

L Skylar Brown
10-07-2011, 07:10 AM
Pls take this as the compliment I mean it to be... This is very reminescent of N.C.Wyeth - just wonderful.

cartuneman
11-24-2011, 04:34 PM
Sorry I didn't get to reply to the rest of you. so here goes,
L Skylar Brown: i had no Idea who N.C. Wyeth was till i looked up his work. wow what a complement thank you sir! I can only hope to be the artist he is.

Bobbi: Thank so much Bobbie.

jibes and mannafig : thank you all as well!:D