Bus sketch'es 1.2.3.4.5.

[Caesar]

The Venus has got more or less the same hair than You, dear ATPlus!:D
I like Your exploration across the centuries and the masters!

Dear Sandra, to be absolutely precise, in Italian Sandro is masculine (short form of Alessandro) while Sandra is feminine (complete name Alessandra). For us the name are either masculine or feminine and articles and adjectives have to match. We didn't keep the neutrum (like for Latine and then German) except for some personal pronoun, a form which neither masculine nor feminine (which is not sexual orientations or uncertainties thus is not relevant to gays, hermafrodites or transgenders :D). You may find neutum also in English, the third person pronoun "it", just to explain.

[D Akey]

Mr Ploos! Yes sir, yes sir, 4 bags full. . .

Spring fever. . . is that the way of it then, eh?

You have me poofed out and breaking a sweat just reading of your pirate adventures, doin' the Douglas Fairbanks wall hop. An' you've a patch over your eye, for all your trouble and shenanigans lad? HAR!

Well, just be careful, ship mate. . . for a coopla years back when I was out back o' me 'ouse bustin' oop the shrubbery, the branches scratched me cornea and I was in a pickle, sort of visually impaired like. And I got a chunk of wood the size of a golf tee thrust through the fleshy part of me little finger, oh aye.

Springtime does strange things to us, lad. . . and there's the truth of it. So take care of yourself and don't push too fookin 'ard as it slows yer sketchin' doon a wee bit. . . although the nekkid bird looks every bit of alright. . . an' doon wif one eye tied behind yer back. . . masterful. . .

Carry on, Sketchin'!

[eighty+]

Hail O Ceasar O Mighty One Thanks I should have know as there plenty

of Sandra's over here I was just confused Its my AGE you know :D:D:D:D
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Hi Mac yeah must been that spring feeling got me excited thought I was

in my teen's and hop over the wall but leg's thought otherwise :eek::eek::eek:

will try to be more carefull or want make the ton :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

SLAINTE to you both E+

[coops]

Hi dear Eighty, hope the day goes well with you and LISTEN UP YOUNG MAN, dont do all the gardening in one go its not worth the backache. Just take care of yourself and dont go jumping walls anymore you hear:)#Oh by the way the painting are great too lol:)

[eighty+]

Hi. Katie Katie Coops you won't believe this , but this is my 3rd attempt

Ok. Here goes . Sunshine so into the garden this morning worked to3oc

5bags of debri but all tidy and shipshape finished 3oc. Went indoors sat

In the armchair and dozed off :D it's my age you know:D:D:DIt's now after

4 so been out for an hour:eek: so up to the moment no sketching may try

Later. Ok. I go now before it dissapeers. :D:D:D

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops have a nice sunny day ok :D:D:D



rough quick sketch so my hand keep's agile :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty and it sure is a sunny day but with that brings a water shortage they say and soon there is to be a hosepipe ban. Nothing is ever plain sailing is it. Have a great day and I look forward to seeing more paintings from you:)

[Caesar]

Your bus took You to Avignone I see! :D I think You had much fun there with these naked Pablo's demoiselles, didn't You?

[mannafig]

Brilliant as always dear Eighty:):)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops they will charge us for breathing soon :eek: think
camaron is working on it :D:D:D

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One yeah the girl's made out I was their granfather

and looked after me :cool::cool: one thing about doing pablo's stuff you dpn't

have to worry about making mistakes:D:D:D

[pat1940]

Hi eighty, sorry got behind here, had to clean up flood in house, washing machine hose fell out of drain .....great drawings and paintings as always, take care and have a great day:):):):):):)

[eighty+]

Hi Pat liked your last one you've got to grips with the colours

would like to see you sharpen a bit more thats my eye's only ok

I'm on a rest period at moment lots of sorting at home. flood I bet

you said a few sweet nothing's :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[eighty+]

Hi sketching from a book should have looked with a magnifying glass

1st as wasn't near enough so missed some of the detail


Michelangelo Three Labour's of Hercules


.............:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty well another fine day here and hope all is well with you. You seem to have been to the wrestling match with your last sketches careful the down get you into the ring to compete. Have a great day:)

[eighty+]

Hello Katie Katie Coops yes it must have been a good morning but I slept

threw it :Donly just sufaced done a lot of work yesturday so slept like

a dog in fact two dog's :D:D just looked at your 3in1 much too clever

by aff :eek::D as for Hercules not sure what he's wrestling with even

with a magnifying glass so I'll wait for my old mate Caesar as He'll know

ok Katie have a nice afternoon :eek: SLAINTE

[mannafig]

More great sketches dear Eighty.:):)

[SCP]

Great action sketches eighty+ ;):)

[eighty+]

hi Manfig you've made Mac happy I can see his Smiling face:D:D:D


Hi SCP thanks Still waiting on Caesar to tell me what he's wrestling

with is it swan's or serpents :confused::confused::confused::eek::eek::eek::D:D: D

[D Akey]

Ach laddie. . . Played like a coontray & western tune. Looks like when Mars an' Venus broke up, she got the 'alf shell an' 'e got the shaft. . .or pillar or whatever tha' is to 'is right. Oh aye, was an awful toosle. . .

It's classical work yer doon. These gods, ye know. . . they may be immortals boot their garmentry 'as a shorter than 'alf life it seems.

And oh aye, Mannafig put a grand big smile across me countenance with that lovely drawing. She's usin' it as 'er avatar.

You gonna likewise use your own fine drawin' as thoos for yerself? You could be Hercules Ploos the Threadbare. . . aye that ye coold. . . Get ol' Venus clatterin' in 'er 'alf shell from excitement. . .

[AT-TA]

You must have wondered into the wrong class today, Eighty, but all the students and teacher as well didn't mind your googly eyes, when seeing so much nudity,you have probably never seen so much of it before...but at the end you have managed so well. Good stuff Eighty.:)

[Caesar]

Dear ATPlus, I see You opened a public bath with annexed sauna there, with quite a number of people looking for fitting! :D:p
As for Your question on Hercules rival in the struggle You painted, I would like to know which refernce You looked at, but You possiibly represented him fighting against the giant Antheus, the son of Gea (the Earth). At first Hercules could not prevail because anytime his opponent fell on the ground under his strikes and moves, he recovered all his forces from her mom. Then Hercules realized the trick and eventually killed him by striking and squeezing him lifted from the ground.
Anyway there are at least twelve famous labours he accomplished to depict, even leaving his enterprises as a child and a youngster ...:D

[eighty+]

Hi ATTA :eek: Don't blame me for all that Nudity get on to Michel; :D:D:D

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One ok called the three Labours Hercules by Michel ;

the 1 on the left ! thought he was forcing open the mouth of a Boar but looking at it since going by the tail must be a Lion no2 that's easy no 3
is the tricky one as it look's with the magnifying glass to me like 10 swan's
heads are they supose to be serpents??? can you clarify :D:D:D or show us a better picture. from your most and humble follower :D I do look at your
Stuff but you having such a strong Fan club save's me Typing ok :p :p
............. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[coops]

Afternoon Eighty, phew another fine day here hope its sunny with you too. My my you are busy and great to look at too. Well done and more please. Take care and have a good day:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops Yes it looks good that's as far as I can see I havn't
put my nose outside Yet :eek: :eek: yeah as not doing bus sketching at the
moment haveing a bash at Michelangelo but the picture's in the book
are small so its a bit hard or I'm getting Lazy :eek: ok SLAINTE

have a nice afternoon :D:D

[eighty+]

Hi Teacher ZAhang painting a Copy in Pencil :D:D:D:D:D:D:D ----E/S

[Caesar]

The ten heads are those of the Hydra. Each time a head was cut, two new ones suddenly took shape again. A Monster Boar and the Lion of Nemea (whose skin could not be wounded) where challenges he had to face too.

Very nice one the last portrait BTW!

[eighty+]

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One Thanks for the info went on the web no

you have given me a name Hydra trust the Greek's to think that one up

must have frighten the Prole's to death :D:D:D liked the island where all

the rich Artist you'd to hang out when they were'nt staving in Paris :eek::eek:

[eighty+]

Hi an Artist :eek::eek: Ipad :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[eighty+]

hi went back in to sort the little black lines couldn't see them untill I

had posted :eek: and found I could also whiten his shirt :D :D

see how it looks :D:D:D

[mannafig]

Very nice additions dear Eighty and the last one looks very nice:):)

[eighty+]

hello Manfig I dunno about Moon River's but Mac was over the moon

about the painting you done for him well done :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ----E/S

[coops]

Hi there dear Eighty just popped in to say hi and well done on that last painging. You seem to be able to turn your artistic hand to anything, well done. Take care and brrrrrrr its chilly today:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops keep well wrapped up as you can catch a cold

after those hot days :eek: just tried one of teacher Zhang's as water colour

had me standing my head as never no what the brush is going to do next

enjoyed the pratice thou Thanks to Zhang ........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[D Akey]

Lookin' right handsome Mr Ploos! Smartly drawn. You're a right artful dodger. . .

You're sparkling with vim and Zhang, you are!

Love the attitudes captured in all the portraits you're doing. That's one of the cool things that you get into your work. They're people what ain't neutral and lifeless. These folks are there and you have a very clear voice about who they are through your drawing eye.

Sometimes it's good to have large clear photos to work from, sometimes less info in the original forces you to fill in the blanks as it were with your own projections. And since I really like your artistic voice, I think that actually works.

If they're out of 'aggis, you can 'ave some o' mine. You've earned it. :):):)

[eighty+]

Hey Hey Hey Mac your throwing 'aggis around like conffectti

Becareful or they'll have you playing the Pipes AARRHH :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

see what think of Goya as I just got carried away think I need a 'aggis

to settle me down SLAINTE :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[silvy]

:):)Wow, great portrait!

[eighty+]

Hi Silvy had to ad lib on the hair as couldn't see it in the picture ok

SLAINTE :D:D:D Thanks

[AT-TA]

Hi Eighty, love all the drawings, they are so alive and full of characters...the last painting is awesome...just like he was sitting in front of me..asking for a cup of coffee:)

[eighty+]

Hi ATTA Thanks see you and Doc are still the King and Queen of colour

...........:D:D:D:D:D:D

[eighty+]

Hi TV Guy only a quick copy, sketched direct on to screen, so

only roughly like him, as he didn't hang around :D :D :D :D :D :D :D----E/S

[mannafig]

Thank you dearest Eighty.:)

Great work on these latest paintings/drawings of yours:):)

[coops]

Wow dear Eighty your painting of Goya is masterful, well done. Its been a great day here hope that all is ok with you:)

[eighty+]

Hi Manfig Thank you

Hi Katie Katie Coops did go out late 1.45 :eek: walked along the front
had my jellied ells :D had my photo taken a few times yuk yuk don't no
why they just want to pose with me ??? done a few skitch'es 1st for a few
day's it was sunny but chilly if not in the sun :eek: got home and went to
sleep thats why I'm so late posting :D hope you had a good day SLAINTE

today's bus sketch'es 1st of 5 ok

[eighty+]

2nd of 5 ok ........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[D Akey]

Hey Hey Hey Mac your throwing 'aggis around like conffectti

Becareful or they'll have you playing the Pipes AARRHH :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

see what think of Goya as I just got carried away think I need a 'aggis

to settle me down SLAINTE :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

(just using this quote to identify the picture I want to comment on. . .)

The lad with the wig. This so reminds me of a character I've seen in a movie. He looks a little slovenly but wearing what looks like the affectation of finery -- ie. the wig slipping slightly off his pate. In more modern times it would be some fellow not comfortable wearing a suit. Middle management or the boss of some blue collar teamsters who has to deal with upper management as well as the crew. Or maybe even a musician or a writer. Feels like someone out of Amadeus.

You did a great job conveying the image of a real man one might come across in that century. Bravo!

As to your becoming the focus of photographers. . . well there's no surprise there lad. You're getting right famous. You fit the image of a Bohemian style artist, the keen observer now observed. . . and likely appreciated by those what see yer exquisite character lines and artistic features. You'll be as famous a colour as Blueboy. . . maybe the Brighton White'n. The beard helps I dare say.

Nice sketches too, lad.

[eighty+]

:D:D:D hi Mac. ok ok. I'll give you a Amadeus blueboy as soon as I've

Eaton my cornflakes Ok. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[coops]

Good morning to you dear Eighty:)
CLICK CLICK CLICK go the camera and your famous dear Eighty but then I always knew you would be. Your latest sketches are as always for full of life and so cleverly done.:)
Have a great day even though its turned chilly. Wrap up warm:)

[eighty+]

:p:p:p Hi Mac as promised :D had to update to keep with the Time's:eek::D
I did get onto Mozart to write you a tune but he's sorry to busy
keeping the Angel's happy when he's got some days off he'll knock
one out ok :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

HELLO Being Saucy are we Katie Katie Coops by the way in your

spelling you've missed out ( IN ) :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D wont be going

out,! to much to do at home workwise :eek: have a good day even if it

is a bit chilly ok SLAINTE..........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[eighty+]

Hi Abstract ??? or somebody I've seen walking on the Beach :confused::confused:
have a good day Katie Katie Coops :D:D

.............:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[coops]

If you saw him on the beach dear Eighty then I think he has had too much sun, not that he would get any now as rain, sleet and snow forecast. brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Have a great day dear Eighty:)

[eighty+]

Hi. Katie. Katie. Coops. Don't want to upset you :D. But it's smashing down

Here. Not that I've been out still to much to do might take a week :):(

Ok. Did you get more snow ??? :eek::eek: see yuh. Slainte

[chinapete]

... I'm on the bus with you, wondering if it's headed to Madrid:) ... btw, that drawing you appended to my Goya thread, I just was able to see it, must be Goya's brother, keeping an eye on me ... :)

[coops]

Hi Eighty, no snow here but lots of rain but thats welcome have a great day and dont do too much:)

[eighty+]

Hi Pete yeah that's Goya when younger :D ok but he's still watching to

see what your upto with his stuff :eek::eek::eek: :D:D:D

Hi Katie Katie Coops WHAT no snow !!! you must have got Caesar

praying for you :eek::eek: just finished work for today gunna pop down

the shop for me Vital's and light bulb's + battery's all seem to go

at the same time :eek::D:D:D parapluie to you SLAINTE

[D Akey]

:p:p:p Hi Mac as promised :D had to update to keep with the Time's:eek::D
I did get onto Mozart to write you a tune but he's sorry to busy
keeping the Angel's happy when he's got some days off he'll knock
one out ok :D:D:D:D:D:D:D


Fine, put Wolfie Mozart on it straight off. . .

This Blueboy. . . 'e looks a right Eddie Izzard, 'e does. . . :D
Or it's a Blue Nun. . . :D

Either way, lad, one word of advice: "Never leave the bus. . ."
:D:eek::D:eek::cool::D:cool::D:cool::eek:

[pat1940]

Hi eighty, have been down with a bad cold, so catching up again, great ones to view, still on the mend but getting there now:):):)

[eighty+]

for Pete there I was up on the hill chatting to my mates

Look At Me Know :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:




blimey Mac Blue Nun import from Germany or a Copy :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Pat Sorry to hear you've had a cold thought you lived in a warm climate
you may have caught it in Canada :eek::eek: good to hear your fighting fit
but take it slower for a while as can't keep up watching to see what
you've done ok :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ----E/s

[D Akey]

What ever 'appened to me rasher o' Francis Bacon? Does this one no come wif some lettuce an' tomato on toast? Guess ye choost painted the blue plate special, oh aye.

Actually Mr. Ploos, looks like you've found what 'appens to figurative artists what are reluctant to paint 'ead, 'ands 'n feets. . . Not that this 'appens to the artists themselves, lad. . . I mean their pictures might as well be 'angin meat.

Out of decency, coold ye no paste one of your sketches over where the 'ead should be at least. . . And let's 'ave a plate o' eels instead, neh? :D

[chinapete]

:)well if we don't hang together...

[EB]

Nice done



Earle

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty hope the weather is better with you than it is here. Talk about changable, last week sunbathing this week skiing. Lucky here though the snow is just a few miles away but we have had rain and sleet with terrible gales so take care when going out.
You last paintings are great and so amusing too, I like the flowers too. Take care and stay warm:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops I woke early had a look on the Ipad then dicided

as felt so warm and comfortable to have a lay in :D I've just come to at

2oc :eek: must have done more work than realized yesturday :confused: so its a late

start still lots to do :( looks like tuesday next week with luck before its

finished ok OH the weather still ok :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

SLAINTE

[eighty+]

a bit of pratice with Pino ok :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[jibes]

All great stuff 80+. Some of your work is even greater!

[eighty+]

Thanks Neal you've given me fresh heart

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops weather not so good cloudy but dry at the moment

hope its better for you up there :D ok have a good Day :eek::eek::eek:

............SLAINTE

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty and its a lovely sunny day here. Mixed up weather these days.
I love your last sketch and it is really excellently drawn, well done dear man:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops yes it did clear sunny at the moment just finished

work had my meal , carrots parnips onions potatoes brussel sprouts

when prepared bung into pressure cooker then forget untill u can

smell burning gives it that extra flavour :D:Dthe pot now looks like

one of China Pete's sketch'es :D:D:D:D:D:D Slainte

[chinapete]

... hehe, the proof is in the pudding:)

[SCP]

Wonderful portrait eighty+ :):):):):)

[eighty+]

Hi Pete You mean in the Hat :D:D:D:D:D any way vinagar has done the trick you should try it might go with chalk :p:p:p

Hi SCB whats like down udder :D sunny :(or snowing :D:D
the portrait not as hard to do then your tree :D:D

-------Slainte for 2 oik

[D Akey]

The Pino drawing a right fine technique, laddie. Very classical like, with a flair. :):):)

[eighty+]

thanks Mac think her eye's are to far apart :eek: but u know me just bash
it down and hope for the best, thought as I was drawing the bridge of her
nose is to wide, thought I'd sort but due to age forgot :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

...............:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S SLAINTE

[eighty+]

hi pino sketch no2 made too large have to start again got to be full

Lenth ok :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty, hope alls well with you. Great last sketch, keep em coming:)

[pat1940]

Hi eighty, Im back again still trying to recoop, but getting there, great sketches, love Pino's works, just finished another so will be posting it:):):)

[silvy]

Great portrait pino no1!!!Well done Eighty:):):)

[D Akey]

Did ye sail off with yer model, there Mr Ploos? Careful, she looks to be the type what can really billow your canvas, oh that she could. Need to let out the sails on this lass. Heave ho! :D:D

[justjean]

Good morn mr 80, just had a scroll through your lovely paintings while having my morning tea :)

[mannafig]

Very nice dear Eighty:):)

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty, hope alls well with you:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops ...Pat ...silvy.... Mac....Jean....Manfig

my Thanks to you all but been doing a lot work still more

into next week I'm fighting fit apart from the legs ok

done a couple of fun one's on the ipad to keep u laughing ok

SLAINTE to u all :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[coops]

Morning Dear EIghty another fine day here hope sun shines where you are too. Love the latest paintings hehehehe. The flowers are my fav though:)

[pat1940]

Really love that flower eighty, hope you are well and having a good day:):):):):)

[eighty+]

Hi katie Katie Coops :D Rain this morning but still cloudy so you didn't

like my blue ballerini gave her the bar to rest on :eek::eek: :D:D:D


Hi Pat see your getting into a frency with Pino no stopping yuh now :D:D:D

[D Akey]

Nice one, Mr Ploos, is that white bearded lad. Also the others, the flowers and the blue dancer. Was that flower inspired by your being outside hacking weeds and such? Good gardening to ye laddie.

On the white beard guy, I would like to suggest to occasionally, at least, to have your brush go crosswise to the form, like an engraver does sometimes, but you can do it subtle like. Doesn't have to be harsh and in your face, or his. Same colors, just different angles on the marks sometimes. I'm only saying this because the flesh paint around the cheek defies the form a little. Use it sparingly.

It's a good way to separate the planes, and thus giving it a little more form and volume. It also helps is see things turning across the surface, as well as it hints at perspective. A wee bit goes a long way though. But it's something else to try.

Just a new thing to keep in mind as a way to look. You may want to not ultimately have any strokes show. But you do want form and this is one way to make it clear.

The mouth in this one could turn with the form a wee bit more. The right side of it looks a little low. Covering it up with me thumb held out, it shows that the upper half works well. But the mouth is a little off.

[eighty+]

Hi Mac nah the flower's for chinaPete rough Chinese copy give im a laugh

the bloke with the beard done while laying in bed this morning on me Ipad

bit of pratice with thick paint drawing direct with the oil brush wasn't

worried about detail just a rough smash but thanks for the info if brain

remember's next time ok I've tarted that last pino up one as couldn't

leave the poor bitch looking like that:eek: :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[eighty+]

Forgot Mac only had the mouse 1st time tried to use it JC how Caesar

paints with it I'll never know :eek::eek::eek: :D:D:D

[eighty+]

blimey up early easter monday as well :D:D:D bunged a bit of colour on
Picasso's 5 girls but I've got 6 ones hiding her face :D:D

the bloke I've smashed bashed chopped bit off stuckbits on still not
sure if he's ok I'll wait to see what Mac say's :eek::eek::eek::D:D:D

[eighty+]

HI Katie Katie Coops weather not so good just spitting rain might be just passing thou cloud moving up your way :D still a lot more work to do at least
to the end of the week :eek::eek::eek: ok have a good day ok SLAINTE

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, raining here to and set in for the day but I dont care off to see family.
I did like your blue dancer but I reckoned she was blue with the change in the weather heheheh. Like you last paintings too you always make me smile. Have a great day and dont work too hard

[eighty+]

Hi. Katie Katie Coops. Still raining this end :D Been messing with the pino
Girl again. Was going to post. But I've lost connection :D:DSo I 'm back on the
iPad ok. Did you have a good day :eek::eek::eek::D might be sunny tomorrow

:D:D:D:D:D;):D----E/S. SLAINTE

[eighty+]

hi Katie Katie Coops all ok it was the router I thought it was me moving
it :D:D:D here's the girl :D:D:D ok

[D Akey]

Turns better and has more volume, don't you think? Not saying that painterly strokes are bad. That's a different look. And when you use those impasto marks on a fairly realistic head, you usually save it for the end game and just as accents. Beards and hair are cool cause you can get much looser with that than the common features.

But the comment was about the structure reading, if reading in a natural way is what you're wanting.

To go painterly with attention to the direction of the strokes, it's a balance between getting the form descriptively while using painterly panache. These styles rely often on the planes of the shape where they use the strokes a little like a mosaic because the strokes remain intact. (not necessarily little cubes like an ancient Greek floor mosaic, though that is one approach. It can be looser, but the way I'm talking about acknowledges the planes of the head.) Here's a Russian bloke you might not yet have heard of. Nicolai Fechin. He ended up in California and was very popular as a teacher.

http://www.google.com/search?q=nicol...w=1067&bih=487 (http://www.google.com/search?q=nicolai+fechin&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=mk-DT5vNIOvSiAKViYGPAw&sqi=2&ved=0CGAQsAQ&biw=1067&bih=487)

To go the other route with sort of wild painterly marks it's more to get a feeling of haste or a more reckless or frenzied feeling. These lean a little heavier into abstraction.

All these approaches defy categorization. There are an infinite number of shades for every approach. Just thought I would mention it for consideration. I think the form of the head reads much better with the marks either describing the contour or getting somewhat out of the way and letting the brain complete the image. But a good solid form goes a long way and lets one get artsy in other ways.

[eighty+]

Corr Mac. I' m. Spellbound the best I've seen the sketch'es fantastic I'm on
The iPad at the moment so I'll save as when on the computer tomorrow. :D
You 'd give yuh eye teeth to have him as yuh teacher Thanks a lot. Mac

[chinapete]

haha, eighty+, you took a good run at those Chinese flowers, and the blue ballerina ... and Tintin's Captain Haddock? ... and Picasso's triangular gals ... "why should not old men be mad" ... like Picasso late in life drawing in the sand and letting the tide wipe the slate clean ...

[jibes]

I likes how you've developed this'n. Excellent!

[eighty+]

Hey Hey hey Pete and they say Luiwg is Mad ,,,,,But who is Luiwg :D:D:D

:D:DHi Neal yeah had to tart her up as she was moaning U K women:eek::eek:

hi Mac you got me up in the middle of the night 3.30 tried useing lines :eek:
u know me just smash it on then kick it around till it looks ok nah think it was felkin who got me up I'm getting all excited with the thought of his sketch'es wanted to get on the main computer to save as :D as can't do it on the Ipad
...........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S Mac I think your trying to make Me
.................................................. ......draw properly :p:p:p

[eighty+]

Hi trial Run fineck:D:D:D

[D Akey]

Bloody phenomenal, Mr Ploos! Let that be a lesson for all to see. . . ye kin see wif yer own eyes what gardenin' does for one's artistic eyes. . . Great volume!!!!!! Terrific use of values. Nice attention to planes. . . WOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Now choost try an fit that large compliment onto the bus. . . oh aye, but ye earned it, and that's a fact. . .

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty, hope you are well and I second everything that Mr Akey has said. The last painting/drawing well man oh man its flipping great. Well done there dear Eighty:)

[eighty+]

Hi Mac glad u like it was a bit hard coss the pic is not to good any that's my
Excuse :D. Also the NOSE a bit to long there looks like 20 odd drawings to
Copy smashing. Thanks again for showing me Nic ......:eek::eek :D


Hi. Katie Katie Coops Thanks :D Your trying to make me fall over again
:eek::eek: did you go to Nic link on Mac's previous post smashing :eek:
Today nice and sunny a bit of wind sent the clouds up to you good drawing
Praticeing :D:D:D how's. Your dancing troop getting on I can just hear them
Yaking :D:D:D must be hard work keeping them in line :D:D:D
Have a good day. Ok. SLAINTE

[coops]

Good morning dear Eighty and hope the sun is shining where you are as it is over here.
I thought the link that dear Mr Akey left for you was flipping great and I can see that there is lots there for your to try out. If you continue to do as well as the last one well my oh my we will have to bow to the master hehehehe.:):):)
My dancers seem to have gone on strike at the moment, nothing coming to mind but I am sure they will kick up a linedance soon.
Take care and have a great day:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops Follow Cameroon Starve em that will bring em

into line let them know who boss :D:D:D lovely an sunny looks like cloud

over France :eek: here's no2 hard work so much hair :D see what u think??

ok have a nice day SLAINTE

[coops]

Dear Eighty, what do I think??? what do I think??? I think.... no cancel think.... I see you have made a wonderful jump in your skill. This last one well its amazing. I am so very happy for your dear Eighty and so look forward to seeing more and more. YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEE well done you:)

[eighty+]

Thanks BaBe :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[D Akey]

You've found it, Mr Ploos. As pointed oot by Ms Coops, it's a whole new world what's opened oop fer ye, lad.

Keep looking at the model and seeing forms work as yer doin'. Sooner or later if comes doon to a wee bit of formula, where the mechanics of how to affect a face becomes invisible to you and you become more focused on what you want to say. . .

And in that process, you'll find some surprise and delight at what comes of your turning the crank, as it were, with artistry. What I mean to say is that we do the steps, but there is that X factor that brings in the surprise which makes it fun as well as just being good. Just giving you something to anticipate when you're on the bus and you start using some of the stuff you're developing in study.

BRAVO!!!!!!! Really super work. Keep doing what you're doing and copying along with your own drawings in the field.

I think you're getting to the point you'll be wanting for a signature when you do your own stuff. You're getting to that point. :):):):):) WOOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[eighty+]

Hi mac. Nearly threw the towel in :D at one time couldn't make sense of it

And then there e was laughing like a banshee at me could ave kicked im in

The teeth the next one is only a pratice a quick smash as I'm trying to get

That pinky colour e use this is to strong ok. I 'll post it when on the main

Computer then you'll see what I mean ok Mac

[eighty+]

Hi Mac sorry fell asleep :eek: ok see what u think of the colour ... Slainte

[D Akey]

Looking good, Mr Ploos!

The toned paper is good, but being that it is that dark you can consider using a highlight color to pull your dimension up a little here and there.

By comparison with your previous 2 drawings, the darker toned paper sort of kills your middle values and highlights unless you pull up the highlights. This is why one uses a toned paper often -- it's because you want the values (dark/light) of the paper to be a starting point so you don't have to mark that in. In your other drawings much of their success comes in how you did the middle values. Because the middle values you did include are so close to the paper color, it looses some of the worth of those marks here. So with this one it all looks unfinished. Go somewhat lighter and darker so your marks count.

I will also offer this, that in charcoal drawings, which is classical studio stuff, one has the advantage of going thick and thin with the slight turn of the charcoal pencil or stick. One can also press harder and softer thus getting more control of the values in the line.

Paint brushes are good to define a coming painting on top of it, like a blueprint/template kind of thing that you use in the painting itself. And your lines in this look wet and brushy a little. Nothing wrong with that, but you are not going to get the finesse with that than you would with charcoal. So they're two different mediums essentially and two different strengths.

But I can see your drawing skills, and your looking is right there. So you have not lost any ground at all. Just a matter of translating it into using this color as a ground. Push your darks a little more here and there and hit some highlights. You may not have to do much. So test it in different ways on duplicates so you don't lose what you now have.

Very exciting to see just how little you need to complete this one.

Go Mr Ploos, Go Go GOooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

[eighty+]

Hi. Mac thanks for info ok so darken and lighter I have a go on this one as it was a quick smash about background colour yeah as it was a charcoal sketch
In the 1st place think I'll have a go with charcoal then scan it or take a photo
Of it then as scan might smudge it ok I'll have a bash so fasten yuh seat belt :eek::eek: Slainte

[mannafig]

Fabulous dear Eighty:):)
I know exactly what you mean about to much hair hence my latest part of a drawing:D

[Caesar]

Dear ATPlus the Old, You made another impressive exploration and evolution. My most heartfelt congratulations for all Your recent entries!:eek::cool::):):):):)

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, was sunny but now clouded over, hope alls well with you.:)
Another fab painting from you, well done Eighty:)

[eighty+]

Hi Manfig yea I can see what u mean should he have a seventh hair to
give him balance :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One have u been Fiddleing while Rome Burn's or just
lolling around in your Summer Palace with butiful birds :eek::D any way good
to see u back as its been so quite nobody to correct my englaise:eek::D:D:D:D

Hi Katie Katie Coops to see yuh nice:D cloud but looking down to the front
looks as if the sun is round the corner?? there again it could Rain :eek: :D
that last sketch is only a smash to get colour correction from Mac so I'm
going to try what he said ok still working maybe into next week :(:(:(:(:(:(:(----E/S SLAINTE

[Alexandra]

I like your recent sketches as well E+. Great expressions.:):):):):)

[eighty+]

Hi Mac Charcoal Sketch as promised :D :D hope it makes u laugh as it
did me, brain went into shock :eek: when i dug the charcoals out he said
are u mad , well I enjoyed it that's the main thing lucky when at
car boots always got any charcoal I could spot don't ask me why it
just become a habit :eek: as never used them only once about 1991
a full sized Churchill the one his wife tore up somebody was quick with
the camera my mate had it but don't what happened to it as my mate had kicked the bucket :eek::eek::eek: Mac I Digress:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S SLAINTE

[eighty+]

Alex or Sandra Thanks don't tell yuh girls that I've seen them :eek::D:D:D

[coops]

Thats flipping great dear Eighty, now your a master of the charcoal too, well done you:)

[D Akey]

Hey Mr Ploos, that charcoal is great. Very nice work.

Just for fun, and to clarify my other point about using the middle toned paper and going darker and lighter and letting the paper be the mid-range. I added a little smash up to your fine drawing. Please forgive the lack of calligraphic marks as I had to approximate it using a clunky ol' mouse that was on strike cause it wanted more cheese.

It's only ever a best guess what will work and what won't -- ie. where to put marks and how heavy and so on. So here's my attempt at illustrating my point. As they say on the car adverts about petrol mileage, "Your results may vary." :D

[Steve B]

I have to agree with the general concensus on these recent pencil sketch portraits. They're really very good. It's like you broke through some wall, as these are at a whole new level. Expressive, nice pencil work, good depth, nice control. These are very good, IMO.

[eighty+]

Hey Mac. Give the mouse some cheddar they like it when it's dry as ite good for the teeth :D. Yep I like it the touch'es of white gives it crackle but looking
At the charcoal one it's the same one :D:D:D trust me to make a cock up :D:D
Ok. Will send the charcoal as soon as I've finished my coffee. Ok

Katie Katie Coops. Sorry. :D:D:D:D:D:D

[eighty+]

Hi Steve blame Mac he helped me over the wall then run in case I got caught :eek::eek::eek: :D:D:D


Hi Mac Charcoal I Think :D:D:D:D:D:D won't no till I see it:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[eighty+]

yeah that's it I can see all the charcoal dust ok :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[D Akey]

Hahah. I used YOUR drawing, Mr Ploos. Just did some computer stuff to muck the colors aboot.

Charcoal is great. And you did a really good job on the drawing I must say. Good rhythm to the hair. Has a bit of a 1930s stylization that was big here in Depression Era -- dignity of the working man in hard times sort of vibe. The marks are dark and bold, which implies strong character.

So you needn't use any more than ya done. It's perfect as is without the highlights.

Don't forget you can also make lots of varied marks when and if it suits you. Charcoal is very flexible.

Another thing you can do, if you haven't tried it, is you can tone your paper with a smudging of charcoal rubbed over it before you do the drawing. That gives you a mid range. And as a way to do the highlights, you can take a kneaded eraser and pull out highlights with it. The neat thing about kneaded erasers is that they can be shaped to erase broadly or sharp.

Go + GO GO GO!!!!!!!

[eighty+]

Hi Mac there's me in a tizz-was thinking I had made a cock up and it was you.

Arseolling around :D:D:D how did you make it pink ok. Ok. Don't tell me as

brain Is all ready talking about going on strike :eek::eek: the Reaper called

Last night but I beat him off with the vacuum Dyson with death :D:D:D

Sent me by my Nephew. Cheeky bugger. :D:D:D

[D Akey]

That's right, Mr Ploos. . . you let that flippin' black cowled Reaper know that coomin' round yer home sucks big time for the likes o' 'im. . . all electric like wif moore efficiency at 2.5 horsepower. . .

"Take that, sucker!" sez you to him. Oh aye. Tell 'im yer not interested and he can take his wheres elseware. . . Sooch a pest. . .

Right, I made the background the same pink you had in your previous painting. It's a layer thing.

1) I picked the color from your previous pic
2) I made a new layer (there's those blinkin' layers again. . .) and painted it pink.
3) I made a new layer with your charcoal drawing on top of the one with the pink and assigned it to "Multiply". and all the white becomes clear and it sandwiches down in a transparent way showing the darks. (Note: I did it in Photoshop, but it works that way in Artrage as I recall.)

[eighty+]

Hi all I can say is its something to do with layer's :confused::confused::confused::eek::eek::eek::D:D: D

[Lima]

Hey 80, terrific images. I like very much the spontaneity of your art. Really amazing.

[eighty+]

To......Sir Doc Lima our south American Friend who show's us scenes

that explode with colour and great brushstrokes I tried to do a copy

but he left me up the mountain :eek::D:D my many Thanks Sir Doc Lima.

here's me wandering around in the digetal World :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[eighty+]

Hey Katie Katie Coops Looks like a fine day at the moment can't see a cloud in the sky what it like up your way ??? , as you can see I'm up early
5oc had me pills :eek: and cornflakes :Dand finished off fineck bunged on a few
touch'es of white but couldn't go as strong as Mac did ok see what u think

SLAINTE :D :D :D :D :D :D :D----E/S

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, a bit cloud but the sun is trying to get out. Its a bit early so might be a better day.
I think your latest is amazing and cannot wait to see more and more because you have just jumped whatever hurdle was holding you back. Its a fabulous drawing and a fabulous Eighty Yipppppppeeeeeeeeeeeee:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops 9.35 still looking good :D:D:D looks a bit hazy over the

sea front :eek: have a good day it was nice to see the girls back ok

...............SLAINTE

[D Akey]

Fantastic, Mr Ploos!

I see you got the knack already. So now you've combined the best of both worlds: you have gotten your drawings to be stunners where you go from a white paper to dark, while you also have now gotten your toned paper which is starting in the middle value and going dark and also light.

The placement of your lights generally follows the natural lighting on the figure -- the usual places where and how the light hits the head. Also the amount of white you use is like adding spice to a meal. It's a matter of taste. You're the chef.

You can also use the white to vignette the head (in this case) away from the background as a way to pop the head forward in strategic places to feature the head away from the background. You did a wee bit and it works great there. But it's good to know that's an option to play with.

Doin' great! WOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Haggis all around!

[eighty+]

Hi Mac yeah I did bung some White at the back of his Bonze but got cold feet :eek: so took it away :Dthat's called a vignette learn some thing everyday

this starter is called imgress think its her name :eek: I've bunged some rough
shadow's just to see how she's making out also I can see how the shape is
ok Mac see yuh SLAINTE................:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::e ek::eek:----E/S

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, well thats another fine start, you really are on a roll. Have a great day:)

[Belvrog]

Hi Eighty, congrats on your recent entries. Great improvements shining through. Really well done !:):):):)

[eighty+]

Thank you :D Katie Katie Coops been in the garden all day 7bags rubbish
it wasn't a sunny day but just when working in the garden hope it was sunny for you just fin the girl see what u think SLAINTE


Hi Belvrog thanks Yeah its that Mac all the time do this do that just as

well he hasn't got a whip :eek::eek::eek::D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[eighty+]

hi Mac quick charcoal 3min some thing like the next one:D:D thought it
would give u a laugh :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S

[coops]

Hi Eighty, blimey you have been working hard, been a proper April day here, sunshine and showers.
I love the finished painting of the lady and your charcoal man is flipping great. 3 min???? good going my friend:)

[D Akey]

Mac the Whip? No entirely sure aboot tha' whip crack laddie. . . I may be a toughie on ye, but I did no break the lass' nose. . . she were born tha' way.

Let's give 'er a jingle, eh?

Oh when the shark bites,
With his teeth yeah,
And he keeps 'em,
Pearly white. . .

Or was that Mac the Pencil? Mac the Stencil? Mac the Gloop? Mac the Palette Knife? Boot I digress. . . :D:D:D

Ye deserves a good song for these fine drawings, mate. Oh aye, that ye do.

The finish is most polished. Really grand work. Only thing to pick up is the structure a wee bit. But if you can finish it like that, people will regard what you put where as gospel. The nose ain't far off from where it ought to be, but I'll put in a pic of the line to see how one aligns things. You can make these lay-in lines on a separate level and draw on a separate one using your lay-in as a guide, like the foundation of a house.

It's like building a sculpture of a bust from a featureless face. You add the info where they belong. You're already very accomplished with the finish. Exceptional that. Truly. Bravo.

The last drawing is great. Very Cezanne in approach with the planes. But the refined one of the girl shows a different sensibility, more intent on realism. Both are utterly fantastic in their respective camps, Mr Ploos. You should be right choofed, oh aye, as am I.

Go man go!!!!!!!!!! :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::):):):):):):c ool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

[eighty+]

Hi Mac done a nose job is it ok this time :eek: :( :D :D


Hi Mac the Knife watch out if he miss'es with his dirk he'll still bash yuh

with the Haggis :eek: :eek: :eek: :p :p :p :D :D :D

[D Akey]

HAHAHA :D:D:D:D:D Nice ootfat, is me tartan. Ye got me storin' me 'aggis in me spoorin. . . What could be more natural, eh?

Oh right! That is much better. . . I mean aboot tha 'aggis. . .The dirk is most useful for slicin' a' tha table, far better to smashin' it apart wif yer fists. . . An' ye kin bet there will be plenty, if ya keep drawin' this a-way. . .

Tha' last 'ead is much moore better. . . would ye no say, laddie?

Yoo're impressin' me mightily, aye that ye are.

MOORE an THUS, Mister Ploos! Moore and moore. . .

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops sorry missed you yesturday :eek:to day looks like what you had sunshine and shower's :eek::D that charcoal is easy as you don't have
to look u just got a bit of charcoal and boom boom boom :D:D:D ok OW
there's a strong Wind :eek: hope your not hoggin all the sun :D:D have a
good day ok SLAINTE


Hi Mac the Knife pleased you hung up the whip the back was quite sore:D:D

ok see what you think of starter no 4 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

........OW Pleased u liked the tarten:D:D:D

[Caesar]

Your drawing skills got incredibly good recently, inspired by whom? I cannot really say ...
Pleased to meet also Mac the Knife. I just hope he's not around and too close in a windy day ... :D

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty, aint hoggin the sun over here its sunshine and showers.
Love your latest work. I think the use of the slightly colour background works really well, you are on a roll dear Eighty cant wait to see more and more :) Have a great day:)
Oh by the way that scotsman is a blast hehehehe:)

[AT-TA]

Eighty, my ladies asked for more men like this one .. with pretty eyes and nice smile....sooo handsome.... beautiful drawing, indeed. :)

[eighty+]

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One inspired by who that's daft by everyone at the Artrage forum's of cause plus all those blinding Bus people :D:D:D
Hi Katie Katie Coops quite a good day still batting away like a nutter :D Yeah caught Mac the knife in his posh gear they tell me there 's 5--to--7. Yds
Of material in a kiltseem a lot unless they mean feet :D. Ok. Enjoy what's left
Of the day :D
Hey hey hey got the Ladies in a tizz was has he :D. Well tell them its the luck of the Draw but they already know that ATTA. ::eek::eek::D:D:D

".........SLAINTE. To you. All :D:D:D

[eighty+]

Hi. Where's Pat 1940. Is she ok does anybody know :eek::eek: Thanks

[D Akey]

Aye. Pat1940 went to Canada again I believe. Read it in one of her comments in some thread or other. She said she was leaving (for somewhere to join up with who knows who - family I believe). Artists. . . flighty the lot of 'em. . .

The drawing you did just above is sensational, Mr Ploos! You're cookin' haggis now, mate. Your drawings are turning ladies' 'eads. . . You know they say that each picture is something of a self-portrait. Naturally that doesn't always apply. But I'd bet those eyes were not in the reference image, and part of you got into them, lad.

I like how you've broken up the head. Good line too. As you develop and explore your drawings more and more, you will find that you are going to use fewer marks in some drawings, and more in others. This one is in the 'more lines' camp. And as such it rocks. Could it do with fewer lines? It could, but then it would be in a different camp. I think it's very good proportions, and is very emotive. . . in a good way.

You're remaining true to what you have always managed in your drawings, and that is they feel like individuals. None of this "always follow the same route" for you. You find that special thing about each one and present it like a stage MC introducing an act.

Draw, ye lubber! Draw for God and country!!!!!!! <whoosh snap!> . . . but I digress. . .

[screenpainter]

Excellent drawing Eighty. Has the look of real charcoal being used. If it is real media it stands as an excellent drawing. I honestly can't tell if it is digital or traditional media and then scanned, it's a beauty.

[eighty+]

Hi Mac The Knife :D:D thanks about Pat yeah think her mum is in Canada
that no 4 was a starter not that there was much to do could have done
more darker and lighter if u know what I mean :D:D:D:eek::eek::rolleyes:but will leave
as is on cencus of opinion:eek::D do u think I need a wheelbarrow:p:p:p

Hi GZ sorry I upset u but do feel free to kick me if u think I need it OK there is a couple of charcoal trad's in there but not the last one pleased u enjoyed :D

Hi Katie Katie Coops yes not a cloud temp 4.1 lucky there's no brass monkey's around :D:D:Dthe sun is still behind the hill:Dok enjoy your day :D:D

[mannafig]

Hi there dear Eighty your faces have really come
along very nicely. keep 'em coming:):)

[eighty+]

Hi Manfig THANKS ARE you having trouble with artrage or is it just my

computer :eek::eek::eek::(:(:(

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty and yipppeee the sun is out although its a bit chilly. Have a great day and looking forward to seeing your next drawing/painting.:)

[eighty+]

Hey Katie Katie Coops HOW did u know I was going to bung colour on it :confused:

now done this one to get ATTA's ladies excited :D:D:D I wouldn't like to do

another like that one thought I was going to go boss-eyed ok X :D

weather started all blue but clouded over looking out now its clearing so we're

in for a cold night :D:D:D Slainte:cool::cool::cool:

[coops]

Oh this is soooooooo cool dear Eighty and would sit in a gallery anywhere. Love it and well done you:)

[Caesar]

OOhhhhhh, what a real masterpiece, dear ATPlus! Fantastic! :):):):):):)

[eighty+]

HI Katie Katie Coops ........ Hail O Caesar O Mighty One

My sincere Thanks :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D it almost made my beard
drop off :eek::eek::eek: have to see about a stronger glue:D:D:D


................................:p:p:p:p:p:p

[D Akey]

Listen, Mr Dorian Gray. . . Ye might no want to be paradin' around yer portrait what ye gots 'angin in the attic. . . A true artist ye be, actin oot thus. . . Because ye know that there's a part of each of us in the paintings we do. . . all revealin' like. . .

Boot yer tantrum's safe wif us laddie. . . the ladies still be lookin'. . .all curiouser an' curiouser. . . when all is said an' doon, ye'll have ta tell me yer secret to yer prowess over the fairer sex. . . oh aye. Need ta bottle it. Make a fortune even in this messy economy. . .

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, oh what a morning. Lashing down with rain and blowing a gale, think I will stay warm and cosy inside. Stay well my Friend:)

[eighty+]

Hoots Mon tis a ard life in the Highlands Ockay Mac have a couple of

moon river's that will set u up for the day :D :D :D :D :D :D

HI Katie Katie Coops yes was the same at the moment sunshine and

Shower's the wind has calmed down but still gusting outside temp 23c

ok have a nice afternoon :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S SLAINTE

No 6 ok U.W.S.U.L.S :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Caesar]

Dear ATP, another fantastic drawing. :cool:
It looks like You started Your blue period after the Demoiselle d'Avignon and the pink one, just the contrary than Picasso.
But certainly You've got a similar creativity and productivity, so I'm pretty sure You will show also a far better artistic longevity (the poor Pablo stopped prematurelay to paint at only 92, but it was just because of an irrevocable call by the skinny Reaper):D.

[eighty+]

Hail O Caesar O mighty One I put u.w.s. u.l.s I'll translate for u being I 'm

A Lingquiets. :eek::D. You win some you lose some :D:D:D

[Caesar]

Thsi time it's again me who would need a quite specific list of acronyms and dictionary to go beyond my guesses decrypting Your reply, dear mate.
Maybe it's some form of Gaelic ... :D

[eighty+]

Hail O Caesar. O Mighty One. No. Garlic Ok. :D:D:D;):D:D:D---- E/S

[Strandy]

Is garlic breath better than chastity belt? I thought both are overprotectiveness.:D
Sorry for basic question, but I know the Celtic tradition only from Gentle Maiden text...:eek::D;)

[D Akey]

Hoot laddie. 'Es a right proper blue boy. . .er blue man. It's a blueman good drawing is what it amounts to. 'E looks right thoughtful, 'e doos.

Good on ye, Mr Ploos!!!!

[eighty+]

Hi. Strandy do you mean Test :confused:

Hi Mac yeah the blue just crept in before I noticed. :eek::D:D:D

[Strandy]

No E+ not test but text = Lyrics.

After all I wanted to say, I was ever lurkin' your thread, but it was never so exciting to watch as it's currently is. One could make an eBook of it. Would be cool to have on iPad, I think. :cool:

[eighty+]

Hi Strandy pleased u get a laugh as for text= lyric's must admit I

do Swear a lot :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty and my what a wet one it is, pouring down here again.
Like you blue man he looks deep in thought.
Have a good day:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops sorry I'm late didn't wake till 12oc. Since then been

Wandering around like a Bat in bright sunshine :D just looked what you done

For Saff I must say your really biteing the bullet:eek::eek::eek:.....yes it's

Raining as I write and looking where it's coming from no sign of a change

:eek: Be offline later today and all day tomorrow till they reconnect in my new

Abode still more work to do looks like into next week :eek: ok. Slainte

[D Akey]

Right-o. Switching to charcoal and paper, on my mark. . . 5. . .4. . . 3. . . 2. . . and Cut. We're wrapped for the next two days. See you then, Mr Ploos. Bring your drawings, thank you. . .:):):)

[coops]

Hope you are keeping yourself busy dear Eighty, stay well:)

[eighty+]

Mac.......... Katie Katie Coops

:eek::eek::eek: would u adam & eve it I'm back on Line

................:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S No rest for the wicked :eek: :eek:


still lots more to do..........SLAINTE :cool: :cool: :cool:

looking lighter over the seafront :eek: :D

[kenmo]

Nice work. Always a pleasure to view....

[eighty+]

Thanks Ken. Give my regards. To your father Ok.

[eighty+]

:eek::eek::eek:Hail O Caesar O Mighty One sorry about the grey hair :D

Wont be long befor you've got the beard to match :D:D:D anyway

throw the ball as the girl 's are getting excited :eek::eek::eek: :p :p :p :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Alexandra]

Eighty....uh....I don't see any swimsuit on this fellow. Maybe you didn't get your morning coffee and forgot.:o I think he would look good with red shorts with purple and green Hawaiian flowers. Just a suggestion. Now, if he is a nudist...I think he should at least have a tattoo and that he doesn't drop the ball.:p

[Caesar]

Ach, I look here more piggie-pink than a sun-grilling Viking here :eek: and there's no sign of where the sun didn't reach my paler original skin. :rolleyes::p
... actually, I must confess, I've got a tattoed bathsuit, to both save money each summer and be able to attend either a nudist or a standard beach. The only problem is I should stay away from girls to keep the suit's size stable, since there are parts of it which are not just a painted trompe-l'oeil on a wall. :D
Maybe I won't have that problem when I'll get 80+ too and my beard will get as long as needed to solve the problem and conceal possible issue arising with(in) the bathsuit. :p :D

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, you naughty boy peeping in on Cesare. I did have such a laugh viewing the painting and Cesare's reply. Have a good day:)

[Caesar]

... You see, dear ATP? You got Katie laughing at my nudities! :o:D

[eighty+]

Hi Sandra nah E would look like an american

Hi Katie Katie Coops didn't have to peep u know Caesar running around

like a mainaic getting all the girls from D'avinogn excitited :D :D :D

looks better today but might not last ok have a good :D:D

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One Yeah I was going to paint your Trump D'ora

but did'nt want to put it up in the after 9 :D plus the girls where excited

enough already ok :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Strandy]

Hi,

Didn't you want to put it up in the after 9?. I can't believe you go to bed earlier. ;)
Cor, what's a topic! There are not only pictures, but also the read as nowhere else. :D

[eighty+]

Hi St' randy :D yeah I drop off to sleep even when drawing :eek: it's my

Age u know :D but Its help me with my typing 2 finger's now :eek:

Spelling dodgy even I can't read it :confused: it's Caesar fault as he's

Been trying to educate me but I think E's given it up :D:D:D

.............Slainte

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, suns out for a little while hope it is where you are. Keep well my friend and get painting:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie. Coops yes sunny but cloud down south just have to hope

For the best:D. Have'nt been drawing much lately too much to sort out plus

all the carrying :( Looks like another two weeks befor I'm settled felt the old

Ticker This morning so just taken aspirin :eek::eek::D:D. Ok

Enjoy your day while the sun lasts............Slainte

[coops]

Hi there dear Eighty, you must still be busy as there are not paintings or sketches. Keep well my friend:)

[D Akey]

Mr Gardner. I need some work done on me back yard. You've inspired me.

But I wonder just how thick with weeds was in your back yard. Bags and bags, eh? Doin' yerself a makeover then is it? You puttin' any particular new design to it all, like in one of those backyard makeover shows on tele?

Get oot tha croquet set and fire oop tha BBQ. Garden party at Mr Ploos'!!!!!!!

[eighty+]

Hi Thanks Katie Katie Coops...Raining :D yeah been tired the last few days
the work suddenly caught up with me made me realized I'm getting old :eek::D
haven't drawn for the last 3 days done some reading as when moving all
the books spotted Clarke's 2010 so bashed through that then the early
Asimov volume 1 now reading john Mortimer's Paridise Postponed which will
take more time but its looking good,ow I did bung a spot of colour on that charcoal with conte crayons i'll bung it on so u can have a laugh ok
your last one has a touch of Miro ok Slainte

[AT-TA]

Good looking,Eighty.:)

[D Akey]

I liked 2001 and 2010 as books particularly.

I had seen the movie 2001 a couple times back when it came out, and to try to figure it out I got the novel(ization). The book and movie were developed simultaneously. To my great delight, it turned out to be brilliant. Azimov was also very interesting to read.

I love that many people call Science Fiction 'SF'. But it has also been said to stand for 'Speculative Fiction'. That term definitely applies to these two.

So you're a sci-fi buff, eh, Mr Ploos? We should send you up on the shuttle to sketch some space aliens. They might even have eels you could eat through a straw out of a bag in zero G.

[Caesar]

This last face is about to get cubist à la Braque (or even à la Leger if You push a little more). Very good, my dear longevous artist friend! :)

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty and I love what you did to your painting. Hope you are feeling fit and well now:)

[eighty+]

Hi Atta girl :D. thanks
Hi Mac so your a SF buff as well :eek:Well the wife and I about 20 odd years
Ago we're right SF nuts there's 2 I haven't read the Universe from Flat Earth
To Quasar Isaac Asimov to intelligent for this old Prole :D is he still around ???
92 Batting well if he is, like the thought of the ell's threw a straw :eek::D
Hail o Caesar O Mighty One can't think who Leger is at the moment have to look
Him up, Thank you my Longevous Artist Friend??? :D:D:D:D:D:D

"........Hi Katie Katie Coops weather your guess is good as mine:eek:
Feeling a bit knackerd at the moment had to put a new ball valve in a low level
Toilet bottom feed so been laying on my back squashed between the wall and
The Pan trying to undo the nut which was corroded all down the thread so
You can imagine the swearing that went on so to change a ball valve took me
Nearly 3hours instead of 1/2 an hour :D:D:D Pleased you liked the spot of
Colour the conte I mean not the swearing :eek::eek::D:D.....Slainte

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops pouring rain looks if its brightening down the front :eek:

I suppose your bathing in sunshine :cool::cool::cool: :D:D:D Slainte

[mannafig]

This last image is superb dear Eighty a very intense expression:):)

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty, no sunshine here just thrashing down with rain AGAIN.
Great work on your recent picture. :)
Stay well dear friend:)

[D Akey]

Great tone on the paper, Mr Ploos. That's a cool option, to tone the paper in places and then work it up off of that.

Asimov left us in the early 90s, I'm afraid. Always was super impressed with that he was the first to come up with the idea of telecommunications satellites or something like that that changed our world completely. So he was intelligent ahead of many. So don't feel alone in that.

Hollywood, writing to include everybody in the audiences, emphasizes to scriptwriters that when writing about an intelligent character, you always imply technical thoughts so that the audience "gets it" whether they could in fact or not. I think SF writers were often merciful in that one didn't have to go get a PhD from MIT to follow the story.

But the interesting thing is that SF writers are incessantly taken to task on technicalities. The geeks eat them for breakfast. . . so that lot has to really be on their game if they write about hard science type SF. They had fans who were actual astro-physicists and rocket scientists.

Also regarding implying technical things in stories versus really showing how it's done, you don't want to give some nutters a blueprint how to commit a crime successfully or build a bomb or what have you.

Me, I used to read for pleasure. Mostly now I read for information. But a good novel can still get me excited. If you have a suggestion for a book you're really enjoying, please let me hear the title.

[eighty+]

HI Manfig .... Katie Katie Coops .....Mac

sorry I forgot to tell you that the last sketch was a pratice at tracing

and layer's to find what's it all about, wasn't sure what to do after the

trace came on the screen so just darkened and lightened , after found

out how to put a background colour without touching the image :eek:

ok sorry ........Slainte

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty, rain, rain and yet more rain. Hope all is well with you dear friend:)

[pat1940]

Hello dear eighty, I am back again and very nice to check out your drawings and paintings, great work, hope you have been well and taking care of yourself:):):):):)

[eighty+]

Hi PAT Good to see you back thought you'd gone to see your parents ???

or did you pop down to florida for a warm up :D:D:Danyway get cracking

:eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D,...... did go out today felt strange the bus people

said OW my gawd the mad sod is back :D :D :D anyway did cop 6 of em

the 4th one reminded me of our old friend Gokan :D :D

[eighty+]

ok last one ok :D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S.......Slainte :D

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops sorry, not to bad today didn't rain looking out at the moment the sky looks very sullen the wind is strong so it might burst any
minute :eek: :eek: :eek: its moving fast so it might be you who cop's it as its going you way :D:D:Dso get tuck ed up in bed have you got a Ipad if so you can do some drawing :cool::cool::cool::D:D:D Slainte

[JOSEPHINE.EARP]

I wish I could make my figures look realistic like yours. Best wishes Jo xx

[eighty+]

Thanks Josey sheer luck and a lot of bus sketching. :D:D:D

[coops]

Your latest bus sketches are brill dear Eighty with such confident strokes. Well done.:)
As for the rain well some of the villages around here are flooded so how can they put a hosepipe ban on??? I know, they are going to say its the wrong type of rain you watch, they will.
Have a great day dear Eighty:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops remember Profits must come 1st :D:D:D

alway's suprised that seaside town's haven't been piped to the sea for flushing the tiolet's the cost that wouldn't matter as they would bash it on our
bills and stick on a few billion for profit ok have a nice day :eek::eek::eek:
............:D:D:D:D:D:D:D----E/S ....Slainte

[D Akey]

Hello Mr Ploos.

I particularly like the one you said looked like Gauguin. The lines are sure and show a combination of artistic and descriptive qualities. Crisp form.

Nice to hear you're back on the bus. Bet you had to brush the raindrops off your sketch pad.

So our friend Pat is back. Nice that, eh?

[eighty+]

Hi. Mac Thanks Sorry nothing to declare. :D. Yeah good to see Pat running

At a high speed of knot's :eek::eek::D.

Hi. Katie Katie. Coops the sky completely grey :eek::eek::eek::D:D:D

Anything. Can happen in this next half an hour AR".....rh. :eek::eek::eek:

SLAINTE

[eighty+]

Just remembered (Apointment with Fear) in the thirties

"....:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[D Akey]

Appointment With Fear -- The man in black. . . nay, no Johnny Cash. . . AKA The Black Guardian in Doctor Who. . . Nay, not The Who. . . aw skip it. . .

http://www.radiohorrorhosts.com/Appointment.html

Here's an episode that they had linked: The Pit and the Pendulum

http://www.otrcat.net/otr6/Appointme...e-Pendulum.mp3 (http://www.otrcat.net/otr6/Appointment-with-Fear-430918-Pit-and-the-Pendulum.mp3)

Rather dour lot, neh? :D Would scare the willies out of me. . . listening after dark, by the amber glow of the radio tubes. . .

[eighty+]

Hi Mac :eek::eek::eek: to the pit AR......Rh :D could the forties been a remake as

could've sworn 37-38 i remember having to carry the glass accumulater

down to the shop to be recharged so we could listen :eek::eek::eek: thanks for

the list might help when sketching :D :D :D Slainte

[coops]

Afternoon dear Eighty, windy but no rain but looks like its coming this way. Stay warm and PAINT.:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops yeah not good has lightened a bit, no rain but
the cloud is coming from the east now so prehaps the Vikings are coming
:eek::eek::eek::D:D:D bash em with your Brolly:D drawing painting having stopped
while moving finding it hard to get started again will try ok Slainte:D:D

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops you've talked me into having a go :D:D no drawing

just straight in with the brush what do u think :eek::eek::eek:......Slainte

[coops]

Ohhhhhhhh thats so good dear Eighty, he has the most wonderful eyes. Great work on this one my friend:)

[D Akey]

Brilliant, Mr Ploos. Really terrific. Going straight to paint as you did it is not so far from drawing as could be a quibble. All the drawing work you have done has created mark making tools. Only thing may be that you have worked with larger tips on your brush or pen nib etc. So that adds a tonal consciousness to linear sensibility.

I think of Van Gogh a little bit, as how he seemed to keep his color work sorta linear. I think that was because he was very interested in Japanese prints, as were many of the more cutting edge artists of the time.

Anyway, you have nailed a personality in this one. There's depth behind his eyes/countenance, which is a neat trick to pull off. I like the outside stylization to his hair. The large graphic form of it lends a certain graphic arts mode of interpretation, although you also dip into traditional dimensionality as well. Nice combination. Love the colors too.

I'll fit this look with what was going on around the turn of the last century. Beards and styles of clothes also add to that notion.

Ms Coops made an excellent recommendation. Glad you did it. Looks awesome.

Go Man Go!!!!!!!

[screenpainter]

really good portrait and have to agree with Mr. Akey that it has a lot of Van Gogh Goghing on in that portrait. high praise indeed.

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie Coops Thanks for kicking me up the backside :eek: got me started again thanks :D :D :Dgrey sky slightly brighter down the front think its
misting at the moment:eek::cool::cool::cool::D:D

Hoots Mon aye you've tried to Blow ma mind and that's before I've had ma

porridge Thanks Mac.......and its a Sunday :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

Hi Alberto Thanks good to have praise from you makes me feel better

[mannafig]

Nice portrait dear Eighy:):)

[eighty+]

Hi Manfig like your pin ups :cool::cool::cool::D:D:D

ok another portrait will be happy when I can use the tools as at the

Moment their in charge looks like another 20 portrait to get the feel ok

...............Slainte

[pat1940]

Wow love your brush work dear eighty, these are great, more, more, take care and paint, paint, paint:D:D:D:D

[eighty+]

Hi. Pat thanks. I like your mountain one see your still churning them out so fast have you entered for the olimpics :D:D:D in for a gold go gal go

[eighty+]

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::D:D:D yeah look's like I've got to have another training coarse


Hi Katie Katie Coops Blue sky with a springle of cloud so get your dancing pumps on :D:D:D Slainte

[D Akey]

Holy mackerel. . . Mr. Ploos, I dare say, that looks like an blue sky in your last picture. You been conjurin' again, laddie? Oh aye. . . that ye 'ave. Cause you conjured up a paint pie and pulled out a plum on this pic. It's great color. Very rich and your marks are direct and where they appear to fit, which is how you perhaps have come to choose what goes where.

Your color sensibilities are comin' to the fore. . . maybe even comin' to the fives. . . and by my reckoning, fore ploos five make nine, which fits like, coos she's dressed to the nines, this native American lass.

Still you get amazin' depth of persona amidst yer rough marks. And believe me, mate, that rough marks coming out a fine finish all tolled, why that's nothin' less than masterful.

So now that yer paintin' like an artist, what ye gonna do now, hey?

By the way, did you say you just moved residence? Or did I misread one of yer posts?

Anyway, stay dry, Mr. Ploos. And paint, I tell you . . . PAINT, MAN!!!!!!! PAINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. . . boot aye digress like. . .

[coops]

Wow and double wow dear Eighty, your latest painting just jumps out the screen, its wonderful. You certainly have found your way into these paintings with such skill. Well done you dear Eighty:)
Sun is out here but shushhhhhhh it might hear our excitement at seeing it again.:) Just read dear Mr Akey's comment about you moving?? I had thought the same thing, hope all is well with you, have a great day:)

[DennyCayman]

Hi 80,

It is a real treat to be following your work I love these last two portrate.

Denny

[silvy]

:eek::) Wonderful portraits Eighty!!! I'm speechless

[eighty+]

HI Mac did'nt no Mackerel where Holy have to cross myself when I eat one :D glad u liked the girl it was quite an adventure had to close my eye's and hope for the best
...:confused::confused::D:D:D

Hi Katie Katie Coops thanks been a lovely day did go out tried sketching but
could'nt get into the grove done 3 but a load of rubbish I'll post so u can see :eek::eek::eek:

hi Denny thanks nice to meet you I'll go and look at your stuff ok :):):)

...............To all Slainte

[eighty+]

Hi Silvy don't now how I missed you, Pleased you like them Thank you :cool::cool::cool::D:D:D

[eighty+]

:D :D :D Hi Katie Katie Coops yes cold and misrabe solid grey no wind so just waiting for the Buckets :eek: :eek: :eek:

OK the 3 bus sketch'es :( :( :mad: :mad: :p :p :D :D.............Slainte

[D Akey]

No wonder ye were cleaning the place up, Mr Ploos. Had to make space for the model, as ye would. Only in those seven bags o' trash, I think ye may have tossed her kit. . . all innocent and inadvertent like. Nasty business that. . . but I digress. . .

I miss the old emote icons. I figure you ground 'em ta pigment yer ladies fair and dark. A worthy purpose, and that's a fact Mr. Ploos. Ye dun it fer Art.

She looks relatively good, although her belly section of her torso is looking a little like a raisin-ette. She could indeed have a firm tummy, but you may have overdone what might be a little subtler and/or more anatomically precise in the smoothness.

I get this is a cross between natural and Picasso. So carry on, as ye do. You're cooking lad. And I am very impressed with you taking on a full figure. It's not half bad. My crit is merely to fine tune a little. But it's a complex image and for the most part it's a good job.


And please let the maid at least have a short French maid's outfit complete with black stockins lest the poor girly catch a chill when doostin', oh aye. . . that is if yer takin' requests :D

[mannafig]

Your portraits are really coming along nicely dear Eighty:):)

[eighty+]

Hi Mac Stand back 10 paces she don't look to bad :D no I'm just lazy :cool: no truefully I'm bashing them out to help me with the tools thought time I've bashed out his lot I might know what they are all about I Hope :mad:
ok Mac so don't worry about the detail for the moment as its been a long time since I painted with out a
sketch first , but do agree on all your points :D:D:D so have a couple of moon river's on my slate if you
can find it :eek: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Hi Manfig thanks see you've got Mac excited with your black stocking's :D :D :D

.....................Slainte to you both :)

[coops]

Hi there dear Eighty, hope the day has gone well for you and not too much rain. Talking of rain I think your lady should put on a raincoat hehehehe great painting once again and your bus sketches are great. Stay well dear friend:)

[eighty+]

Hi Katie Katie. Coops Blimey thought you had done a runner:D AWOL. :eek:Was thinking of sending

The dogs out with their keg's of brandy but the kegs where empty some bugger had drunk it

:cool: :cool: :cool: :D :D :D Nice to see yuh nice OW the sun did come out so went into the garden and had a

dose:eek::eek: .....SLAINTE

[D Akey]

Wow. Mr Ploos. . . talk about warm and fuzzy sentiment. :D

It's a nice work. But my personal taste would not necessarily choose to be so spare with the airbrush. Not sure if you used the airbrush, or something else, but the marks sort of need a little glue to hold them together.

Personal opinion here. But with digital paint, it's free to use as much or as little as you please. Either way there's no diminishment of the the pixels if you choose to paint with more coverage. And if you don't, perhaps a tool that shows some intrinsic beauty in the mark might be better for when you want to marks to be eye catching unto themselves as well as to represent the subject.

Also, when you are using fewer marks, as you have, that kind of thing works well on toned paper because the tone of the paper is as if you covered the whole, ie. it's not 'gappy'.

But I get the heart in the doing of this one. My comments are merely about the mechanics for your consideration.

Go man go!!!!!

[Caesar]

Your artpieces and excercises are getting more and more impressive and fantastic. Great work, dear mate!

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, boy you are really on a roll here arent you, I am so enjoying your latest post. Keep em coming dear friend. Off into the gardne to get the grass cut before it rains again. Stay well dear friend:)

[eighty+]

Mac Hoots mon :( :( go man go !!! I'm trying but its the mechanic's of the tools that sod me up :confused:

O'aye O'aye thats my escuse :p :p :p :D :D :D

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One Grazi :confused: :p:cool::cool: good to see your back :D

Hello Katie Katie Coops hope the grass is not to long ?? otherwise it glogs the blades :cool::cool: no rain but it

don't look to good ok enjoy the day wwwwwwwhats left of it :D:D:D

.............. Slainte to all :p

[eighty+]

hi up late :( ......going to bed now cala nita :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Caesar]

A wonderful watercolor and self portrait of a few years ago (or You just colored Your hair and beard?):D.
I guess "cala nita" may be "good night" since it resembles the Greek expression "kale nuxta" (transposed in our Latin alphabet ...

[Strandy]

Yeah, reading in the morning sun. How painterly did you show this guy! http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.png His nose is just spectacular! :cool:

[coops]

Morning dear Eighty, hope all is well. Boy you never cease to amaze me. You latest painting is great just wish we had the sun here that you have painted in this picture:)

[eighty+]

Hail O Caesar O Mighty One yavol mien Herr vot is dass vatercolour mien gott :D I have enough trouble

with the tools :eek: could have sworn I was painting in oil :confused: neh neh neh ( good night ) enduxie katavelish

greeko Neh :D :D :D

Hi St' Randy :D :D yep you have to drink a lot of port to get a nose like that also brandy Helps :cool: :cool: :cool:

Oyez Oyez Oyez alls well at the south gate hows you Katie Katie

[eighty+]

Hi. Katie Katie Coops. :D Sorry but they cut me off in full flow. :D:D Suddenly couldn't print I've

Turned off the computer to see if it's back I'm on the IPad at the moment :confused::confused::confused:

It's grey and murky ok. SLAINTE

[eighty+]

ok Katie Katie its all Back:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D