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Lima
10-26-2010, 10:46 AM
How to do it... an ongoing study
At the moment I'm studying how to paint glass, drapery, metal and water. Over time I'll share the technique. Hope you enjoy.

How to paint glass:
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/01.jpg

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/002.jpg

How to paint glass and drapery:
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/002_1.jpg

How to paint rocks under water:
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/003.jpg

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/003_1.jpg

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/004.jpg

How to paint metal:
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/005.jpg

Panaslonix
10-26-2010, 09:31 PM
Dear Orianelima, such a beautiful paintings!!! :eek:

Looks incredible! Very well done!

Thank you very much to you - these works very instructive!

Mairzie Dotes
10-26-2010, 09:44 PM
orianelima,
I made a futile attempt to paint a glass object not long ago but gave
up. :o Many thanks for the valuable examples and instructions. :)

Lima
10-26-2010, 11:30 PM
Panaslonix and Mair, thank you very much.:):)

Jasminek
10-27-2010, 02:10 AM
Thanks so much for sharing the information, I am doing drapes in clothing now, so difficult!:eek:

barnburner
10-27-2010, 02:20 AM
Painting glass has been a total mystery to me.
Thanks for helping to unlock that mystery.
Great job!:)

Caesar
10-27-2010, 02:42 AM
I put a seat in front of each of my screens to attend Your promised lessons, dear Oriane! :cool::) After the exhaustive and interesting ones You gave this far, such as the one on the impasto, no one will keep me away from here! :p

wenkat
10-27-2010, 05:08 AM
Oriane, wonderful tutorial; and theory behind is explained very lucidly.

pat1940
10-27-2010, 05:29 AM
Oriane, so many, many thankyou's for this information, going to practise all of them....3 thumbs up for this one:D:D:D

ScottF
10-27-2010, 05:33 AM
Fascinating studies, oriane! Thanks for sharing!

coops
10-27-2010, 07:36 AM
These are wonderful dear Oriane, thanks for sharing your brilliant tips with us:)

mannafig
10-27-2010, 10:39 AM
A great study dear Oriane which can come in very helpful so thank you very much for sharing:):)

Lima
10-27-2010, 10:51 AM
Thanks everyone:) for the comments. Enjoyed every one of them.

I still have some work ahead ... over time, when I finished, I will publish all the technical details used. Then, I'll ask the Rages to transfer this thread to Tips and Tricks.

Cesare, si puņ scommettere ... grazie.

Jasmine watch this movie to inspire you further.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=z6GuM7g0IzE

Thanks:)

janetcwest
10-27-2010, 12:55 PM
Cool. I so much appreciate your work. For those of us who are not trained your tutorials make the work so much more approachable!! Love your use of color and light in all your work.!!
Janet

justjean
10-27-2010, 01:50 PM
Oriane,thank you so much for sharing your knowlege with us it is very much appreciated.

I will study closely the glass and water paintings altho I would not hope to arrive at your degree of skill :D

Caesar
10-27-2010, 08:45 PM
Dear Oriane, Your tutorial is a really interesting collection of tips for painting subject considered difficult to reproduce.
Your eloquent AR application of such principles and observations are the best demonstration that they do work for any skill level (even if not everybody is as much talented as You).
I made the same experiment on glazing, some time ago, from the same teacher You indicated us and find out that there were two ways with oils, the best one apparently being to use a second layer.
Thank You!

Lima
10-28-2010, 06:38 AM
Another glass painting.
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/Straube_Lima.jpg
Painted in just one layer.

Lima
10-28-2010, 06:55 AM
I made the same experiment... and find out that there were two ways with oils, the best one apparently being to use a second layer.
Caesare Dear friend, you're right. Powell's rocks served as reference to these examples of painting rocks under water. It would be interesting if you put here, the link to your post. In my examples I use only one layer. Follow the figures:

No glaze
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/Onelayerglazing_Lima.jpg

1st glaze
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/Onelayerglazing_Lima2.jpg

2nd glaze
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/Onelayerglazing_Lima3.jpg

3rd glaze
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/Onelayerglazing_Lima4.jpg

See HERE (http://files.proartes.webnode.com.pt/200000633-19de81ad8c/Glaze_Lima.swf) this small movie

And an attempt to simulate a rain. All in just one layer.
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/Chuva.jpg

Caesar
10-28-2010, 07:51 AM
Dear Oriane, here it is. It was a quickie and it's missing for instance the normally darker part of the rock just above the water level.
Anyway we get the idea of the differences with the two approaches.

screenpainter
10-28-2010, 09:53 AM
it's wonderful to see your studies and to learn from them Oriane. Thanks for sharing and helping us paint better pictures. Very helpful tutorial and study.

Lima
10-28-2010, 10:01 AM
Thanks Caesar, really a great experiment. Cool.

The parameters I used are on the figure. I did everything in a single layer, this way, you may add additional glazes. See HERE (http://files.proartes.webnode.com.pt/200000633-19de81ad8c/Glaze_Lima.swf)

A few simple words on glaze:

A glaze is a transparent finish which is added on top of the main color. The effect is to make the finish look richer, and with more depth.

* If you tint the glaze with a hue from the same color family as the base color, the result will be to deepen the tone.

* If the glaze and base color are different, the result will be a completely different color with a degree of translucence.


Caesar, what parameters you used?:)

Lima
10-29-2010, 05:36 AM
it's wonderful to see your studies and to learn from them Oriane. Thanks for sharing and helping us paint better pictures. Very helpful tutorial and study.
Dear friend, I have great admiration for your ability to analyze a work of art. Thank you for your comment, your comment is very encouraging and I thank you for this. I hope these humble studies serve as encouragement to all those who wish to paint glass, metals, etc ...

Thanks.

Lima
10-29-2010, 05:42 AM
About Metals
"In painting metals the key is to understand they are distinguished by their color and their ability to reflect light rays."

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/limaorian/Artrage/005.jpg

Read and visit this page here (http://www.cleangreengems.com/cowdisley/advanced/goldsilver.htm):
"Give me some paint, brushes and canvas and I will give you gold, silver, ruby and pearl. I will give you the greatest treasures you have ever seen. I will show you magic. Artists are the greatest alchemists, the best magicians of all. They can make gold from base metals, they do that every day and more. Would anyone doubt the cost of Rembrant's painting below well exceeds the cost of the gold helmet? Oil and lead to gold ... now there is alchemy proven."
read more (http://www.cleangreengems.com/cowdisley/advanced/goldsilver.htm)

Caesar
10-29-2010, 06:40 AM
I'll have to find the relant thread, dear Oriane, but I do remember that I used as much pressure as possible not to shift the underneath paint, but just to mix gently for the one on the same layer.
Not to low pressures though, so as not to loose the hue intensity. This is because with layers at high thinner rates I don't use the dry feature, so that some littl mixing blends and smoothes a little Anyway more or less around 30% if I'm not wrong.
For the glaze on an upper layer I gave sensibly higher pressures than 50%, because there's no problem and it keeps the glaze color vivid.
As for the thinner it's on the image and the loading was full loading in these cases.

Lima
11-02-2010, 10:32 AM
Dear friend Caesar as you know, the painting of transparencies is not easy. It depends on several different factors, but it is strongly influenced by the chemical characteristics of transparency or opacity of the various pigments and also, by the technical skiil of the painter to deal with it. To try to reproduce the same thing in a computer program, is not also a simple task. Okay, we can use layers to achieve the desired result, and that is fine. Sometimes, we expend lots of time just to find the correct settings for one tool, sometimes found at random, just to achieve a similar result effect. For example, making the desired effect in just one layer. This does not mean that it is better or vice versa. The end result will be the same, I think, or approximately similar. That's what I found in these studies. :)