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dirtslayer
07-21-2009, 01:07 PM
I am totally new to Artrage, in fact, i am new to graphic design - to this point I am versatile with MS Paint. I am only using the dumbed down free version of ArtRage, so, I am just working my tail off to pay for the real thing. ( I am a forestry worker in real life ). I want to post my sketches because I want to know how to improve my work. I have a tendency to work very quickly, I find that after a few minutes my pieces get worse; perhaps because of my inexperience. Any comments are more than welcome, like I said i do not consider myself a trained artist at any level so, please bear with me. Also, I am using Artrage with Linux and wine, and a genius tablet ( the result is really all that matters anyway ).

I also uploaded the trace image for the caricature of pj harvey

Juz
07-21-2009, 01:15 PM
Welcome to here. Looks like you're off to a good start:D
One of the users here le-mec created a fabulous 2hour painting tutorial on youtube which has some great suggestions for how to approach painting in artrage. Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84MUPYNEY0E

just plugging 'artrage' in as a youtube search will yield many more instructional vids.

the tips and tutorials section of this site has some great info. Hanzz, another forum user has put together a list of the tuts available here http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12938

hope this helps :)

dirtslayer
07-21-2009, 01:19 PM
it sure does help, information is the new gold

i was looking around and wondering about using other people art, i suppose that swiping other peoples work is ok if you have permission, otherwise it would be wrong

any comment?

i want to build web sites, and the process of creating original art has turned out to be harder than i was expecting

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Juz
07-21-2009, 01:27 PM
Using an image can be helpful, however most are tied up in copyrights that would give the best lawyer a headache.

So here is where you get the 'GOLD' (leprechaun optional)
http://www.everystockphoto.com/

open the advanced search on the right:-

under the 'licence' dropdown enter any of the following (these are the free and free for use licence types)


public domain,
freerangestock
imageafter
Morgue File License
NASAAny of these licences mean that the photo is free for use in either commercial or non-commercial products. You can do whatever you like with the image as long as you dont claim it as your own photo or repackage it as part of a photo stock library and sell that. So you can post these on your website as is, or altered (painted, illustrated etc) completely legally with no licence worries or headaches and none of the link back to me rubbish.

PS/ Bookmark that one its a ripper, also, morguefile is down at the moment so links to those photos might not work for a week or so :)

irishrose
07-21-2009, 01:33 PM
Welcome Dirtslayer! I like what you're doing already, and your job sounds fascinating, I'm sure it can also be very challenging! Yes, there is a copyright nearly all work out there unless the painter/author of the work has been dead for over 70 years... this is why so many people use the Master's works to copy and learn.

But keep up the good work, you will get there. :)

The best, Rose

weembaman
07-21-2009, 01:54 PM
Welcome, Your off to a great start, please keep posting your work...:)

Sketchism71
07-21-2009, 02:12 PM
Welcome to AR! There is a ton of tutorials on here that are great to learn from. Keep at it and paint paint paint!:)

dirtslayer
07-21-2009, 02:12 PM
my job is strenuous, tedious, and blistering - i planted 50,000 trees in 39 days this spring - i will be going to fight fires later this week - ya, forestry work is not for the faint of heart

i suppose the more you learn about any job the more you realize it was not what it seemed at first

after 18 years in forestry, web design sounded like a staycation (recently added word to websters) but again, i was wrong, i find it hard to sit in a chair

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dirtslayer
07-21-2009, 02:29 PM
hey rose, i went to your blog site, wow, nice work, you mention on the site that you are thinking about selling your art,

part of what i have been trying to figure out is how to own an e commerce website that does not cost any money to host (ie no monthly fee)

i did figure out a way to do it and it is not that painful, since i just started in this web design stuff it is a bit rough around the edges, i have already taken an order and gotten paid, the site was started less than a week ago with nothing at all

selling on the internet is not complicated until you try to hire someone else to set up your cart thingy, well, i said stuff that and made one myself

now i just need a portfolio, hell ya, this is going to be my new career

http: //sites.google.com/site/savywebdesign/purchase-online-1


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hibebebebe
07-21-2009, 08:08 PM
So much fun. Wonderful start.

dirtslayer
07-21-2009, 10:00 PM
i watched the awesome tutorial by moatdd, it was long, but very worth while, you can see from my first drawing that i had no concept of filling in the background first - well, after watching that vid, i did learn a lot, now, the same subject, with, i think a better result

byroncallas
07-22-2009, 02:52 AM
Hey, welcome. I'm glad they let you out of the cage. :D These are lovely and terrific first starts. I hope you'll stick around and post lots more of your efforts. Have fun with it and we'll have fun right along with you. :)

Meanwhile, I loved all your commentary. I also thought I'd love being a forest ranger. It's always enlightening to hear it through the lens of one who has been there. :D (But I'd still like to be a forest ranger.)

Juz
07-22-2009, 07:20 AM
Wow Dirtslayer, massive improvements already. I agree its two hours of great info. Le-mec (moatd) did an awesome job.:)

dirtslayer
07-22-2009, 07:23 AM
too funny, forest rangers are what we call fish cops, they are not quite the same as what i do, i am a laborer, forest ranger is not a forestry job because it has nothing to do with logging and they work for the gov, not exactly my favorite organization

semantics really - like i was saying the more you get into a field, the more you realize it wasnt the hill of beans you where expecting

i have a few good photos of a surveying job i did in the mountains and i am going to paint some of that soon i think

http: //picasaweb.google.com/dirtslayer/WilmoreMountainPineBeetlePhotos#

there is also a video there of me, flying in a helecopter above some rocky mountains

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cartuneman
07-22-2009, 10:38 AM
great first ups....and good luck with your website!

Lima
07-22-2009, 12:12 PM
Hi Dirts. I liked all previous comments. Just paint a lot and... kip painting. I like your images.:)

dirtslayer
07-22-2009, 12:58 PM
i think i must have attention deficit or something, i find it difficult to paint often

the mindset that i need to do this work is escaping me most of the time

that last painting was done at 3 am, in the middle of the night, i have to find a way to do this and not run myself ragged

one thing i have never mastered is how to relax while i work, something i need help with for sure

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MaryS.Hines
07-22-2009, 07:15 PM
'''''''''that last painting was done at 3 am, in the middle of the night, i have to find a way to do this and not run myself ragged

one thing i have never mastered is how to relax while i work, something i need help with for sure

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you did a great job on both of the first two paintings, but you really improved after watching that tutorial....
also thought I'd mention, lots of times when I'm painting, I'll listen to music..everyone has their own preferences, but I listen to Indian music (John Two Hawks-'Honor') ..and Irish Music (Alisa Jones-''Irish Dreams'') both of those albums are very calming and relaxing, for me, at least.
.as for painting at 3:00am, you may want to try n make it a rule not to start any paintings after a certain time, like after 11:00 or 12:00 (cause if you're like me, you're not gonna wanna stop until it's done, no matter how long it takes, lol..well you really are off to a great start.look forward to seeing more from you...(n I'm not an AR expert yet, but if you need any help, just hollar)..ttyl.:)

kenmo
02-04-2010, 08:39 AM
You may want to check moatdd's new website. I guess he was finding you tubes video size & length too restrictive...

http://tenminutedrawing.blogspot.com/

I already started a thread about Ten Minute Drawing then later stumbled across this thread....

Cheers

Ken

totalspace
02-04-2010, 09:21 AM
i can see good things in both of these pictures. keep having fun with it all.

ARTGEEK
02-04-2010, 02:28 PM
Welcome, you are off to a fine start. Just keep practicing :)

Evart
02-04-2010, 04:21 PM
First and foremost, welcome, and second, nice paintings :)