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jacktar51
07-22-2008, 09:48 PM
I dont know how to do this,so if anyone knows how its done...could they explain it to me please?.I need it for loads of paper grains I have made... all of which come out with seams on the new larger pictures(2000pixel)....any help here appreciated....Jack.

Fashmir
07-23-2008, 04:33 AM
Hey Jack,

Do you have access to Photoshop?

Someonesane
07-23-2008, 05:11 AM
There are a number of way to do this with various programs. As I'm sure Fashmir was hinting at there, Photoshop seems to be the program most people turn to for this, because of the handy "offset" filter which handles some/most of the dirty work. A tutorial for this can be found here:

http://www.multimedialibrary.com/Diana/Examples/Photoshop/howtotile.asp

But for those of you who do not have access to Photoshop and would like to make your grain tiles in ArtRage, it is possible (and not to difficult). To demonstrate, I've made this video tutorial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VSEF3sMq7k

Fashmir
07-23-2008, 05:32 AM
Someonesane- Well done! Thanks for showing your method using ArtRage. This community can use more of this kind of information. It's all too easy for me to always jump back into my "standard" tools, not thinking of ways to do it right in the package we all have. Very good tutorial.

Someonesane
07-23-2008, 11:21 AM
Someonesane- Well done! Thanks for showing your method using ArtRage. This community can use more of this kind of information. It's all too easy for me to always jump back into my "standard" tools, not thinking of ways to do it right in the package we all have. Very good tutorial.


Thanks Fashmir. I have made a few of them so far for other threads, and will probably be making some more as other questions pop up in the forums here.

DaveRage
07-24-2008, 09:20 AM
Great tutorial, Someonesane! :)

jacktar51
07-25-2008, 12:00 AM
Someonesane....Thanks for that information I will find that very useful...

Fashmir thanks for you input there,I have an old Paint shop pro 8,but dont have access to Photoshop,I dont like big programs with hundreds of brush types and sizes,and loads of gizmos like Painter for instance.... I dont use Paintshop unless I cant do a drop shadow right in Artrage, the only programs I use these days are Artrage and PhotoFiltre,I dont seem to need anything else,and now with the bigger post sizes I can do more detailed stuff, which suits me down to the ground, thanks for coming back on this mate appreciated.... Jack.

Someonesane
07-25-2008, 02:21 AM
Great tutorial, Someonesane! :)

Thanks Dave :cool:


Someonesane....Thanks for that information I will find that very useful...

No Problem Jacktar, hope it helps :)

Dany51
08-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Thank you for the tutorials but I am unable to do a good grain, probably because of the eraser.
I show to you my results , perhaps someone can do better?!:confused:


"Gessoed Canvas" is the texture that I find it with another soft and want to us it in Artrage
g_layer 0 is the selection of 300x300 on that texture
g_layer 1 is the 4 merged layers (the one with the lines inside)
g_layer 2 is my final layer , the canvas grain
f20 is the canvas that I made with g_layer_2,
as you can see is not a very uniform canvas; it can be good for something but is no good in general .

Any help or any advise are welcome.:(

yvan_c
08-04-2008, 09:14 PM
You can also use ZBrush to make seamless textures, but hey it is an EXPENSIVE proggie if only what you want to do is make seamless textures;)!

Dany51
08-05-2008, 12:57 PM
Thank you Yvan_c for the advice , I don't know ZBrush yet but for the moment I don't want to spread around too much.
By the way, my problems with Inkscape was in fact a computer problems...

My question refers to the tutorial that did make Someonesane for a seamless tiling.
thanks if you can help.:confused:

Someonesane
08-06-2008, 03:47 AM
Thank you for the tutorials but I am unable to do a good grain, probably because of the eraser.
I show to you my results , perhaps someone can do better?!:confused:
Any help or any advise are welcome.:(

Hi Dany,

Sorry I couldn't help you sooner, I'm working on some paintings for someone and haven't had much time to read and post at the forums.

My tutorial shows a quick example of how to go about getting a seamless tile, but there are circumstances where a bit more effort will be required to get the correct effects. Here are some more tips for getting the tile to look correct:


Turn the lighting in ArtRage off when creating the tile (hit the F5 key to toggle the lighting)
Use a crackled type of stencil to help break up the straight edges you erase away from the top layer
Use as much of the actual image as possible, while finding a section of the image that has as few imperfections in the pattern as possibleWhen trying to make a tile with your image, I had to do all three of these things, in order to get a decent effect. I also had to try a few times, mostly so I could find a good area on the image to use. I've attached the tile I made with your image to this post and here is the link you can download the ArtRage .ptg file for the tile, so you can look at it:

http://www.mediafire.com/?3hzp7uvnuut (just click on the "Click Here to Start Download" button on that page)

Please note that in the .ptg file I have created an extra layer, which is painted blue. This layer is only there to show you the texture effect I put around the edge of the top layer using the eraser and stencil, and should be hidden or deleted before exporting the tile for use.

Dany51
08-07-2008, 05:42 AM
Hi Someonesane,

Many thanks for the help and all this details.
I must to do now good canvases.:) I did understand much better how to do it, the video tutorial is very well done but the details that you advise now are very useful.
I look at your method with Photoshop but for the moment I have only Photoshop Elements 6 and I am not sure there are an offset filter,
just for a try I used the translation filter but with all this I still have to work a lot until I know to handle it.

For the moment I will try to exercise with the method that you show in Artrage.
The "gessoed canvas" works well now, thanks again.:)

Someonesane
04-27-2011, 01:46 AM
Sorry to dig up old threads, but someone asked to see the grain texture I created in my video tutorial, and I thought I might as well post it in here for anyone else who might want to see it. I had to rummage through my external drive for it. Having made the tutorial three years ago, I'm surprised I still have it, lol.

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