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sanjouin-dacapo
04-03-2008, 08:43 AM
I did this as sort of a practice for facial proportions and such, and it turned into Seiya Kou from the Stars season of Sailor Moon. I tinted the paper blue and used the pencil tool. I like the pastel effect, but I need some help with the lighting and possibly other areas. Critiques and/or paintovers would be cool!

Pierre-Luc
04-03-2008, 09:49 PM
very sorry :oops:

sanjouin-dacapo
04-03-2008, 10:19 PM
Eh... I was talking more of a correction in technique and such, like overall shape. What I meant by 'paintover' was to correct the proportions, anatomy, shading, perspective, that kinda thing. You did pretty good at making him look like the Anime Seiya, but I'm going for a realistic-ish look. You did a nice job in some areas, especially the ponytail and such, but it isn't quite what I was lookin' for LOL! It's all good though :D

Anyways, any lineart, shading, anatomy, perspective, correction would be cool, as would redline/blackline, and crits ^^

Pierre-Luc
04-04-2008, 04:27 AM
:oops: :oops: :oops: im sorry i tought you was wanting somone to paint over it! lollllllll im so sorry...........erase that post quick! lollll im sorry i speak french........maybe it would'nt happen if english was my first language.

:? im so embarassed

sanjouin-dacapo
04-04-2008, 05:55 AM
Your version is kinda cute(you gave him nice earrings) so no I don't wanna delete the post. I just need some good crits

D Akey
04-04-2008, 07:18 AM
The left eye is out of alignment.

Of all the ways to draw out there, I think anime is one of the most structured.

I would approach a drawing of anime like anime is drawn.

You are painting this like a life drawing. And that's a good thing. But my recommendation is to use this tonal technique to do humans and make the other more linear.

First thing to do is get a model -- find a pic of this character and draw from it rather than out of your head.

But if you want to simply develop this, get the model still, but on a layer work on the structure. Make a layer and find your construction lines and place the parts where they belong.

That's if you want to do this character and/or draw formally.

It's a cool early drawing. It's fun when something just magically appears when you have a marking tool in hand.

Keep going!

screenpainter
04-04-2008, 10:00 AM
I love it. Wonderful conté crayon look with some pastel highlights. I agree this has a very classical sketch look that I love.

Animé would be a whole different genre. Just to help on the proportions a bit. The left eye does need to lower a bit. The ear should be between the line of the eyes and the bottom of the nose. The neck should narrow a bit. I included the pic to show what difference it would make. Sorry if I lost some of the beautiful sketchiness by moving sections around. Just for observing... you can fix your own or go from here.

sanjouin-dacapo
04-04-2008, 04:48 PM
The left eye is out of alignment.

Of all the ways to draw out there, I think anime is one of the most structured.

I would approach a drawing of anime like anime is drawn.

You are painting this like a life drawing. And that's a good thing. But my recommendation is to use this tonal technique to do humans and make the other more linear.

First thing to do is get a model -- find a pic of this character and draw from it rather than out of your head.

But if you want to simply develop this, get the model still, but on a layer work on the structure. Make a layer and find your construction lines and place the parts where they belong.

That's if you want to do this character and/or draw formally.

It's a cool early drawing. It's fun when something just magically appears when you have a marking tool in hand.

Keep going!

Yeah LOL I have troubles with the eyes! I think the main problem I have with it besides the eye is the long ponytail looks too much like part of his neck. Will have to find my model though... there might be someone around who looks like a Seiya XD

Anyways thank you! This is the kind of comment I LOVE!



I love it. Wonderful conté crayon look with some pastel highlights. I agree this has a very classical sketch look that I love.

Animé would be a whole different genre. Just to help on the proportions a bit. The left eye does need to lower a bit. The ear should be between the line of the eyes and the bottom of the nose. The neck should narrow a bit. I included the pic to show what difference it would make. Sorry if I lost some of the beautiful sketchiness by moving sections around. Just for observing... you can fix your own or go from here.

Ah thank you for the help with the eyes, ears and nose. The thing with the neck is the part you erased is actually his ponytail. Seiya Kou and the other two singers have ridiculously long ponytails that look like they were tacked on(though they may just be mullets or rats' tails). So that is understandable. I also have to maybe put a collar around his neck to anchor him in a way.

I'm glad you like the style... I wanted to use more colours, but I felt that three(including the paper) were enough.

You did a great job fixing it up though! Gave me quite a few things to think about in my next attempt :D

screenpainter
04-04-2008, 10:24 PM
oops, sorry. now he is going to be after me for chopping off his ponytail. :D

sanjouin-dacapo
04-05-2008, 04:46 AM
You've actually given me some good ideas on how to adjust his ponytail ^^

D Akey
04-05-2008, 09:53 AM
Plus it is a good thing to start considering how things appear to others who don't know the original or what you had in mind. Not always, but in the case of something or someone where you want us to see what you're doing (as opposed to abstraction where the subject is often ambiguous).

How you handled the pony tail is very similar to how you handled the other marks, and there was no beginning or end point of the shape. It needs to describe something or the interpretation is up for grabs. Plus it paralleled the contour of the neck, so it was tough to recognize that it was meant to be something other than a tone or shadow.

Line and shape are quite useful for description.

sanjouin-dacapo
04-05-2008, 02:42 PM
Could you help me with the endpoints in an illustration?

D Akey
04-05-2008, 02:56 PM
Sorry. That one made me a little suspicious.

You have to start looking both at the world and at other artists' work.
This world is very visual.

What it may be lacking is your input. After all you're the artist.

sanjouin-dacapo
04-05-2008, 03:57 PM
Sorry. That one made me a little suspicious.

You have to start looking both at the world and at other artists' work.
This world is very visual.

What it may be lacking is your input. After all you're the artist.

Why did that one make you suspicious? I hope I didn't look like I was making trouble...

D Akey
04-05-2008, 04:53 PM
No trouble. Just draw and enjoy.

I just get a little doubtful of the motives when it feels like I'm being asked to do it for someone. Shoves it in my lap when it should be something the artist is eager to try for themselves.

I'm sure you 'll do great. And perhaps others will maybe want to help.

But I strongly suggest you do as much for yourself as you can.

It's supposed to be fun, right.

sanjouin-dacapo
04-05-2008, 04:57 PM
No trouble. Just draw and enjoy.

I just get a little doubtful of the motives when it feels like I'm being asked to do it for someone. Shoves it in my lap when it should be something the artist is eager to try for themselves.

I'm sure you 'll do great. And perhaps others will maybe want to help.

But I strongly suggest you do as much for yourself as you can.

It's supposed to be fun, right.

I was just a bit confused at what you said at first and needed it clarified, is all! I'd rather do the work, I was just talking about a rough drawing of shapes and showing what you meant XD