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    Quote Originally Posted by cow View Post
    Windows Store is a complete non-starter for me. Anyone familiar with the Windows Store knows that is absolutely terrible. I would not want any software tied to that account/system as you never know then it'll bug out and prevent you from downloading, updating or even launching programs. I've fought it a few times, ever again.

    Do the developers of ArtRage not know how universally reviled, for good reason, the Windows Store is among professionals and enthusiasts? Who do you believe you are appealing to with this move?

    Some reconsideration is in order here.
    If I buy software, I want to be able to install it. PCs go bad, hard drives go bad. Being able to install is necessary or I won't buy it. I don't care if it's Microsoft, the European Union, the UN, or the United Federation of Teachers ... none of them care about little old me, none of them is going to get my money and control over my basic needs. I buy software to run it.

    I can install Linux on a new PC, or new SSD drive in an old PC, while drinking a coffee. Works EVERY time.

    I'm jumping through hoops for 3 windows apps, Artrage being one of them.

    If Artrage stops updating a freely self installable version and continues to neglect the Linux market, it just lowers the bar for Krita, or Gimp with an add on, to take over.

    I'd rather pay something for the Artrage UI that I know. But I won't hand money the the ghost of Bill Gates.

    Come on Artrage - put yourself in the shoes of the artists & hobbyists!

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    I'm confused on what Artrage Vitae is. Is it the heir of Artrage 6 or is there still going to be an Artrage 7 one day?
    If so, what is so different in Vitae compared to the Artrage X line and in what way the 2 will differ in the long run?
    Thank you
    Last edited by Aledin; 08-28-2021 at 06:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aledin View Post
    I'm confused on what Artrage Vitae is. Is it the heir of Artrage 7 or is there still going to be an Artrage 7 one day?
    If so, what is so different in Vitae compared to the Artrage X line and in what way the 2 will differ in the long run?
    Thank you
    Hello Aledin,
    ArtRage Vitae is ArtRage 7 and is now distributed only via the Mac App Store or the Microsoft Store.

    My current understanding is that ArtRage 6 is still to be maintained but not developed further.
    In much the same way as they have for past obsolete versions of; AR3, 4, & 5.
    Andy dose say in his post here that they will still offer support for AR6: https://forums.artrage.com/showthrea...599#post538599

    You can find a list of new features found in ArtRage Vitae here: https://forums.artrage.com/showthrea...546#post538546
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    Quote Originally Posted by markw View Post
    Hello Aledin,
    ArtRage Vitae is ArtRage 7 and is now distributed only via the Mac App Store or the Microsoft Store.
    Thank you Mark! And after seeing your message I noticed my typo when I meant Artrage 6 intead of 7, but you understood it anyway.

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    I am extremely disappointed with this boneheaded move on ArtRage's part. I will NOT use the Windows Store. Period. I will stay with ArtRage 4 Pro for now.

    If I decide to upgrade, it will be to ArtRage 6 (unlikely, though, since I do not support businesses that do not offer customers options in how they purchase software).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnimaxus View Post
    I am extremely disappointed with this boneheaded move on ArtRage's part. I will NOT use the Windows Store. Period. I will stay with ArtRage 4 Pro for now.

    If I decide to upgrade, it will be to ArtRage 6 (unlikely, though, since I do not support businesses that do not offer customers options in how they purchase software).
    Moving to the Windows and Apple App stores is already benefiting our customers. We've had virtually no customers reporting problems purchasing and installing ArtRage Vitae through the two App Stores.
    You have no idea how many support requests we previously got from customers who had difficultly with serial numbers, installers, updates and fixes.
    I do appreciate some people dont want to use the Windows Store. For those people we're continuing to offer ArtRage 6 for sale (at a reduced price) and will continue to offer free technical support as we've always done.
    We still offer free technical support for ArtRage 2. We will continue to offer support for all versions of ArtRage.
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    NiceUpgrade, but ...

    I don't like Artrage installing itself in WindowsApps folder. I also bought the MineCraft game from Microsoft, the game is not in the Apps folder either.

    I would like to use Artrage64.exe with a 3D program, with 3DCoat as PaintingEditor. But have zero access. WindowsApps is locked by the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRage View Post
    Moving to the Windows and Apple App stores is already benefiting our customers. We've had virtually no customers reporting problems purchasing and installing ArtRage Vitae through the two App Stores.
    You have no idea how many support requests we previously got from customers who had difficultly with serial numbers, installers, updates and fixes.
    I do appreciate some people dont want to use the Windows Store. For those people we're continuing to offer ArtRage 6 for sale (at a reduced price) and will continue to offer free technical support as we've always done.
    We still offer free technical support for ArtRage 2. We will continue to offer support for all versions of ArtRage.
    Maybe my experience was an exception, but I had a terrible time getting my payment processed. Neither chat help nor telephone support could solve the problem. Only after installing a PIN in the account settings of my computer did the Microsoft Store finally function for me. Having an account with a password was not enough. For some reason, I had to figure this out by myself, or rather stumble into the solution.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRage View Post
    Moving to the Windows and Apple App stores is already benefiting our customers. We've had virtually no customers reporting problems purchasing and installing ArtRage Vitae through the two App Stores.
    You have no idea how many support requests we previously got from customers who had difficultly with serial numbers, installers, updates and fixes.
    I do appreciate some people dont want to use the Windows Store. For those people we're continuing to offer ArtRage 6 for sale (at a reduced price) and will continue to offer free technical support as we've always done.
    We still offer free technical support for ArtRage 2. We will continue to offer support for all versions of ArtRage.
    Bit late to the party here. I got a wild hair to upgrade to see whats new as I'm still using AR5. Was very surprised and very dissappointed to find that Vitae is only available on the MS Store. I agree with others... that just obliterated any chances of me upgrading to Vitae or any version that is exclusive to the MS store. Kind of amazed you guys havent stepped up to bat here and made it available in both the MS Store and here considering how many people have significant reservations about this. As others have stated, the MS store is pretty well universally hated. Anyways, wish you guys luck. I'll be sticking with AR5 for now and going with a competing product when I feel AR5 isnt doing it for me anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aledin View Post
    I'm confused on what Artrage Vitae is. Is it the heir of Artrage 6 or is there still going to be an Artrage 7 one day?
    If so, what is so different in Vitae compared to the Artrage X line and in what way the 2 will differ in the long run?
    Thank you
    I created a video that spotlights the 5 main differences in Vitae from Artarge 6. This should help you decide if you want to use it or not.

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